Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 78
  1. #31
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    But it was.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/12...ion-but-power/

    There's literally millions of articles talking about Malone and what happened to him when he spoke out about how mRNA is being misused - and naturally, since that goes against the narrative, he was muzzled by the usual suspects.

    No, there's something rotten in Denmark.
    Not entirely. He did early work but so did thousands of others. He has an opinion to the negative like plenty of others have opinions to the positive. Why does he get elevated?
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  2. #32
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Some people don't even bother to sniff, therefore, can't smell anything.
    Round and round we go....

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    A. So you don't fully trust any sources, even your own?
    B. When you started inferring our info was gleaned from sources on the internet you don't approve of.
    C. We still have our trusted sources. We've just decided the FDA, CDC, WHO, NIH, MSM and Big Pharma isn't trustworthy. Just because you fully trust those sources and we don't does not make our position any more destructive than yours.
    Why are you so intent on telling me what I do, who I listen to, and who I approve of? If you post something that doesn't make sense I'll tell you why it doesn't make sense.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  3. #33
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Is any of what i mentioned false?

    and based on those facts the level of trust you continually attribute the -powers that be- seems misplaced.
    And the level of mistrust you assign to those Drs, Nurses, Researchers, whistle blowers and the train of vaccine victims seems unwarranted
    To say the least.
    I'm 100% sure that you can trace each of those things to someone who said something about something. However it doesn't make them lies. Someone could have been wrong. Someone could have been hopeful. Someone could have passed along bad information. A thousand different explanations could be out there but you've assigned them to be lies and what you want to say are now facts. And I didn't say I mistrusted anyone, I'm saying some people who are being elevated are not in a position to be making claims to the whole. Might they have evidence? Sure. Are they 100% correct? Probably not because they don't see the whole picture... generally.

    Some of the numbers you've been presenting here today are based on military insurance billing codes. Did they read it right? Is there data correct? Who are the real people behind those numbers? Those are questions one should ask when touting presented information.

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    when it's called common sense but it's really just, generally, going along with the current authoritarian consensus.
    Oh brother! If we don't line up behind you it's authoritarian concensus. Thanks for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "trust but verify."
    that's all I really want to do.
    And here's a question, How many lies are we supposed to forgive before we can call Faucai, Big Pharma and the CDC liars who do not deserve trust.
    I say they've reached their limit.... long ago.
    And if that's "destructive", then who destroyed it? Not me FJ, and not you.

    Everything they say is now suspect, and subject to extreme verification IMO. That seems like "common sense".

    BTW they still won't allow verification since they won't even permit all the evidence to be presented.
    And they continually try to block other professionals from open forums to even review or debate the evidence.
    You're nowhere near close to "trusting but verifying." You've blocked out anything that might come from the CDC, et al.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  4. #34
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wasilla, Alaska
    Posts
    13,988
    Thanks (Given)
    8494
    Thanks (Received)
    15307
    Likes (Given)
    3307
    Likes (Received)
    3829
    Piss Off (Given)
    27
    Piss Off (Received)
    4
    Mentioned
    201 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475184

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Not entirely. He did early work but so did thousands of others. He has an opinion to the negative like plenty of others have opinions to the positive. Why does he get elevated?

    I'm getting the distinct feeling that you're being stubbornly obtuse for the sake of being stubbornly obtuse. I've known you for well over a decade now and know that you quickly get to the bottom of things instead of merrily skimming over and ignoring what you normally would research.

    He's literally the inventor of mRNA technology. This is undisputed.

    From his own page :

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Malone
    I am an internationally recognized scientist/physician and the original inventor of mRNA vaccination as a technology, DNA vaccination, and multiple non-viral DNA and RNA/mRNA platform delivery technologies. I hold numerous fundamental domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, and vaccines: including for fundamental DNA and RNA/mRNA vaccine technologies.

    I have approximately 100 scientific publications with over 12,000 citations of my work (per Google Scholar with an “outstanding” impact factor rating). I have been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, have chaired numerous conferences and I have sat on or served as chairperson on HHS and DoD committees. I currently sit as a non-voting member on the NIH ACTIV committee, which is tasked with managing clinical research for a variety of drug and antibody treatments for COVID-19.
    https://www.rwmalonemd.com/

    I daresay that Malone is the leading worldwide authority on mRNA vaccines and their uses & misuses.

    He's certainly more credible than Faucci and our idiot-in-chief demanding that everyone get jabbed - even 2 year olds are expected to offer up the arm now. Pretty soon they'll be demanding to vaccinate fetuses prior to birth.
    Last edited by NightTrain; 01-27-2022 at 03:40 PM.
    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

  5. Likes SassyLady liked this post
  6. #35
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Virginia, U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,954
    Thanks (Given)
    4821
    Thanks (Received)
    4637
    Likes (Given)
    2473
    Likes (Received)
    1562
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    3
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    14075389

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You're nowhere near close to "trusting but verifying." You've blocked out anything that might come from the CDC, et al.
    Well, actually fj, I haven't blocked anything from the CDC, Fauci or Big Pharma
    I quoted them liberally in post #23

    I review their claims and gone beyond their claims to counter claims by other professionals who've shed light on the limited information (and outright propaganda ie mask) that the CDC, Fauci and Big Pharma have dished out FJ.
    Not to mention actually listened to victims of their work.

    You know it's like reviewing the info from the cigarette companies that PROVE that smoking doesn't cause cancer and also looking at the info from researchers that say that it DOES cause cancer and listening to cancer patients and their Drs.. Maybe even looking into things like how and who did the cigarette companies research... etc.

    After a while you get the impression that the cigarette companies might not be telling the truth.
    Even though the FDA, CDC and Doctors in TV and Print ads, keep insisting that smoking does NOT cause cancer.
    But during decades of LYING i'm sure someone would have talked... right?
    Last edited by revelarts; 01-27-2022 at 04:32 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

  7. Thanks SassyLady thanked this post
    Likes SassyLady liked this post
  8. #36
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    over here
    Posts
    13,356
    Thanks (Given)
    5574
    Thanks (Received)
    6627
    Likes (Given)
    5342
    Likes (Received)
    3966
    Piss Off (Given)
    35
    Piss Off (Received)
    2
    Mentioned
    88 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    17558168

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I have yet to tell anyone what to post so long as it is within the rules. Apparently you are the one taking exception to what I chose to respond with. Circular isn't one way.

    Rev's a big boy and he can take care of himself. He's not bashful about arguing back when he wants to.
    Then I'll continue to post alternative sources about the current situation regarding covid vaccines and hope it doesn't make people feel stupid .
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


    George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.

  9. Likes revelarts liked this post
  10. #37
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Virginia, U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,954
    Thanks (Given)
    4821
    Thanks (Received)
    4637
    Likes (Given)
    2473
    Likes (Received)
    1562
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    3
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    14075389

    Default



    "In this report he had it 72 hours prior to the crash when there is circulatory Spike protein as shown by Ogata et al, '21. There should be great caution over any key positions (pilots, bus drivers, etc) during this high risk period given his and other lives potentially at stake."
    Peter McCullough, MD MPH
    Last edited by revelarts; 01-27-2022 at 04:07 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

  11. #38
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I'm getting the distinct feeling that you're being stubbornly obtuse for the sake of being stubbornly obtuse. I've known you for well over a decade now and know that you quickly get to the bottom of things instead of merrily skimming over and ignoring what you normally would research.

    He's literally the inventor of mRNA technology. This is undisputed.

    From his own page :

    https://www.rwmalonemd.com/

    I daresay that Malone is the leading worldwide authority on mRNA vaccines and their uses & misuses.

    He's certainly more credible than Faucci and our idiot-in-chief demanding that everyone get jabbed - even 2 year olds are expected to offer up the arm now. Pretty soon they'll be demanding to vaccinate fetuses prior to birth.
    How is anything I posted incorrect? I acknowledge that he had a part but he wasn't "the" anything; he was one of many. I saw a link that 16000 scientists agree with him. 16000 scientists support global warming. 16000 economists think that tax increases spur economic growth. You can get 16000 whatevers to agree with anything these days.

    And I wouldn't say that I'm any more obtuse than anyone else. I want to know as much as anyone but I'm not going to just accept anything from one side when it is, or very much appears to be, less thought out than actual supported evidence.

    Is the government response overboard? Good Lord yes. Is the response to government/media overboard? Good Lord yes. It's somewhere in the middle; let's figure it out.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  12. #39
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Well, actually fj, I haven't blocked anything from the CDC, Fauci or Big Pharma
    I quoted them liberally in post #23

    I review their claims and gone beyond their claims to counter claims by other professionals who've shed light on the limited information (and outright propaganda ie mask) that the CDC, Fauci and Big Pharma have dished out FJ.
    Not to mention actually listened to victims of their work.

    You know it's like reviewing the info from the cigarette companies that PROVE that smoking doesn't cause cancer and also looking at the info from researchers that say that it DOES cause cancer and listening to cancer patients and their Drs.. Maybe even looking into things the how and who did the cigarette companies research... etc.

    After a while you get the impression that the cigarette companies might not be telling the truth.
    Even though the FDA, CDC and Doctors in TV and Print ads, keep insisting that smoking does NOT cause cancer.
    But during decades of LYING i'm sure someone would have talked... right?
    Yup. All bad. All liars. We're all dead.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  13. #40
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "In this report he had it 72 hours prior to the crash when there is circulatory Spike protein as shown by Ogata et al, '21. There should be great caution over any key positions (pilots, bus drivers, etc) during this high risk period given his and other lives potentially at stake."
    Peter McCullough, MD MPH
    Where are the names of these pilots and bus drivers who are dropping dead?
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  14. #41
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wasilla, Alaska
    Posts
    13,988
    Thanks (Given)
    8494
    Thanks (Received)
    15307
    Likes (Given)
    3307
    Likes (Received)
    3829
    Piss Off (Given)
    27
    Piss Off (Received)
    4
    Mentioned
    201 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475184

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    How is anything I posted incorrect? I acknowledge that he had a part but he wasn't "the" anything; he was one of many. I saw a link that 16000 scientists agree with him. 16000 scientists support global warming. 16000 economists think that tax increases spur economic growth. You can get 16000 whatevers to agree with anything these days.

    And I wouldn't say that I'm any more obtuse than anyone else. I want to know as much as anyone but I'm not going to just accept anything from one side when it is, or very much appears to be, less thought out than actual supported evidence.

    Is the government response overboard? Good Lord yes. Is the response to government/media overboard? Good Lord yes. It's somewhere in the middle; let's figure it out.

    How do you propose to do that when the most knowledgable person in the field is censored and silenced?

    Do you see the problem now?

    This is akin to sidelining General Mattis prior to battle and having Pelosi and Waters run the show as Chris Matthews gushes about a tingling leg regarding their military brilliance.
    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

  15. Likes SassyLady, revelarts liked this post
  16. #42
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Virginia, U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,954
    Thanks (Given)
    4821
    Thanks (Received)
    4637
    Likes (Given)
    2473
    Likes (Received)
    1562
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    3
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    14075389

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Yup. All bad. All liars. We're all dead.
    Is that what I said?

    Plus Most Conmen don't lie all the time fj.
    there's always some truth mixed in. folks just have to take the time to sift the truth from the lies.
    and not buy the sale pitch whole.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

  17. Thanks Tyr-Ziu Saxnot thanked this post
    Likes SassyLady liked this post
  18. #43
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    How do you propose to do that when the most knowledgable person in the field is censored and silenced?

    Do you see the problem now?

    This is akin to sidelining General Mattis prior to battle and having Pelosi and Waters run the show as Chris Matthews gushes about a tingling leg regarding their military brilliance.
    I guess that's the problem. I don't agree that he's the most knowledgeable person in the field.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  19. #44
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,893
    Thanks (Given)
    4180
    Thanks (Received)
    4524
    Likes (Given)
    1412
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Is that what I said?

    Plus Most Conmen don't lie all the time fj.
    there's always some truth mixed in. folks just have to take the time to sift the truth from the lies.
    and not buy the sale pitch whole.
    Just throwin' my hands up.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  20. #45
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wasilla, Alaska
    Posts
    13,988
    Thanks (Given)
    8494
    Thanks (Received)
    15307
    Likes (Given)
    3307
    Likes (Received)
    3829
    Piss Off (Given)
    27
    Piss Off (Received)
    4
    Mentioned
    201 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475184

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I guess that's the problem. I don't agree that he's the most knowledgeable person in the field.

    I see.

    Who's your guy? Faucci? Collins? Biden? Walensky?
    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

  21. Thanks Tyr-Ziu Saxnot thanked this post

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums