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    Default How January 6 Is Being Used to Crush Dissent...

    How January 6 Is Being Used to Crush Dissent on the Left
    ...Alluding to Capitol riot, authorities in Florida prosecuted anarchist and Black Lives Matter protester Daniel Baker purely over speech and social media posts, sentencing him to nearly three years in prison, roughly the same punishment as one Capitol rioter got for punching an officer. Left-leaning activists around the country were paid visits by authorities in the days and weeks following the siege.
    Clark says that this kind of harassment largely subsided after the first few weeks following January 6, but the event has had a lingering effect. In Florida, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis invoked the Capitol riot to reintroduce and pass into law a repressive anti-protest bill that had previously failed. In a video promoting the bill, his party even placed footage of the Capitol breach side by side with that of the George Floyd protesters, making the case that such out-of-control protesters need to be subdued.
    Eighty-eight such anti-protest bills have been introduced around the country since the Capitol riot, according to the International Center for Not-for-Profit Law. Thirty-three of those were introduced in January 2021 alone following the siege, with several, such as Florida’s bill, coming within the days immediately after January 6, and another 32 introduced that February. Eleven of these post-January 6 laws have so far been enacted, giving authorities wide latitude to prohibit or punish protesters, and sometimes even providing legal protection to motorists who mow them down....
    https://inthesetimes.com/article/jan...i-protest-left




    this article title says "Crush Dissent on the Left" however like many short sighted - red team blue team- writers he limits his concern to one sides problems.
    When the problem effects EVERYONE and simply gives the gov't ---local, state and federal--- more "legal" authority to suppress speech and limit protest.
    Basically piss on the our 1st amendment rights.
    On Jan 6 many on the right finally started to understand the difference between some bad actors in the midst of peaceful protesters
    and even the reality of FBI infiltration and instigation of illegal acts within otherwise peaceful protest.
    The other side of the hammer is new laws restricting free speech and assembly/protest even more than they all ready are.
    Next 2nd amendment protest, Next blm protest, everyone needs to remember
    ALL citizens have rights to protest and if we want to KEEP our rights we've got to not get carried away in trying to suppressed our supposed opposition's 1st amendment rights.
    Because it's binds everyone EXCEPT those in power.
    Unless some of you folk like living in an authoritarian police state where the trains run on time and no one is allowed to protest and block traffic ..unless they are on your team.
    Last edited by revelarts; 01-26-2022 at 08:41 AM.
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    All speech is not free.

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/florid...state-capitol/

    TALLAHASSEE — A Tallahassee man who was arrested in January for plotting to violently confront would-be protesters at the Florida Capitol was found guilty Thursday on federal charges.Daniel Baker, who made online posts about confronting supporters of former President Donald Trump during an expected protest at the state Capitol, was convicted on two counts of sending, in interstate commerce, a true threat to kidnap or injure.
    During a trial that lasted about 2 ½ days, Baker’s defense argued that the series of social media posts that led to his arrest were “jokes.” Federal prosecutors set out to prove that “inflammatory rhetoric” Baker posted online constituted a true threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    How January 6 Is Being Used to Crush Dissent on the Left
    ...Alluding to Capitol riot, authorities in Florida prosecuted anarchist and Black Lives Matter protester Daniel Baker purely over speech and social media posts, sentencing him to nearly three years in prison, roughly the same punishment as one Capitol rioter got for punching an officer. Left-leaning activists around the country were paid visits by authorities in the days and weeks following the siege.
    Clark says that this kind of harassment largely subsided after the first few weeks following January 6, but the event has had a lingering effect. In Florida, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis invoked the Capitol riot to reintroduce and pass into law a repressive anti-protest bill that had previously failed. In a video promoting the bill, his party even placed footage of the Capitol breach side by side with that of the George Floyd protesters, making the case that such out-of-control protesters need to be subdued.
    Eighty-eight such anti-protest bills have been introduced around the country since the Capitol riot, according to the International Center for Not-for-Profit Law. Thirty-three of those were introduced in January 2021 alone following the siege, with several, such as Florida’s bill, coming within the days immediately after January 6, and another 32 introduced that February. Eleven of these post-January 6 laws have so far been enacted, giving authorities wide latitude to prohibit or punish protesters, and sometimes even providing legal protection to motorists who mow them down....
    https://inthesetimes.com/article/jan...i-protest-left





    this article title says "Crush Dissent on the Left" however like many short sighted - red team blue team- writers he limits his concern to one sides problems.
    When the problem effects EVERYONE and simply gives the gov't ---local, state and federal--- more "legal" authority to suppress speech and limit protest.
    Basically piss on the our 1st amendment rights.
    On Jan 6 many on the right finally started to understand the difference between some bad actors in the midst of peaceful protesters
    and even the reality of FBI infiltration and instigation of illegal acts within otherwise peaceful protest.
    The other side of the hammer is new laws restricting free speech and assembly/protest even more than they all ready are.
    Next 2nd amendment protest, Next blm protest, everyone needs to remember
    ALL citizens have rights to protest and if we want to KEEP our rights we've got to not get carried away in trying to suppressed our supposed opposition's 1st amendment rights.
    Because it's binds everyone EXCEPT those in power.
    Unless some of you folk like living in an authoritarian police state where the trains run on time and no one is allowed to protest and block traffic ..unless they are on your team.
    Not real big on inferring through vagueness and word association that "dissent" and "out of control rioting/violence" are one and the same.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Not real big on inferring through vagueness and word association that "dissent" and "out of control rioting/violence" are one and the same.
    Then why do it? I don't think the author of the articles is. Dissent has a much broader meaning than do riot or protest, both of which are pretty specific and are themselves forms of dissent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    How January 6 Is Being Used to Crush Dissent on the Left
    ...Alluding to Capitol riot, authorities in Florida prosecuted anarchist and Black Lives Matter protester Daniel Baker purely over speech and social media posts, sentencing him to nearly three years in prison, roughly the same punishment as one Capitol rioter got for punching an officer. Left-leaning activists around the country were paid visits by authorities in the days and weeks following the siege.
    Clark says that this kind of harassment largely subsided after the first few weeks following January 6, but the event has had a lingering effect. In Florida, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis invoked the Capitol riot to reintroduce and pass into law a repressive anti-protest bill that had previously failed. In a video promoting the bill, his party even placed footage of the Capitol breach side by side with that of the George Floyd protesters, making the case that such out-of-control protesters need to be subdued.
    Eighty-eight such anti-protest bills have been introduced around the country since the Capitol riot, according to the International Center for Not-for-Profit Law. Thirty-three of those were introduced in January 2021 alone following the siege, with several, such as Florida’s bill, coming within the days immediately after January 6, and another 32 introduced that February. Eleven of these post-January 6 laws have so far been enacted, giving authorities wide latitude to prohibit or punish protesters, and sometimes even providing legal protection to motorists who mow them down....
    https://inthesetimes.com/article/jan...i-protest-left




    this article title says "Crush Dissent on the Left" however like many short sighted - red team blue team- writers he limits his concern to one sides problems.
    When the problem effects EVERYONE and simply gives the gov't ---local, state and federal--- more "legal" authority to suppress speech and limit protest.
    Basically piss on the our 1st amendment rights.
    On Jan 6 many on the right finally started to understand the difference between some bad actors in the midst of peaceful protesters
    and even the reality of FBI infiltration and instigation of illegal acts within otherwise peaceful protest.
    The other side of the hammer is new laws restricting free speech and assembly/protest even more than they all ready are.
    Next 2nd amendment protest, Next blm protest, everyone needs to remember
    ALL citizens have rights to protest and if we want to KEEP our rights we've got to not get carried away in trying to suppressed our supposed opposition's 1st amendment rights.
    Because it's binds everyone EXCEPT those in power.
    Unless some of you folk like living in an authoritarian police state where the trains run on time and no one is allowed to protest and block traffic ..unless they are on your team.
    "Protests" in this Nation are more riot than protest, especially from the left, and need to be controlled. There IS a legal, proper and orderly way to redress grievances against government. There is a legal, proper and orderly way to protest.

    The "right" to protest does NOT supersede the Rights of others. In reality, ALL leftwingnut protests/semi-riots are designed to do nothing BUT disrupt and inconvenience the Rights of others to get their attention-whore fix.

    Your "Rights"? End where mine begin. At that point I don't give a flip what's bothering your crybaby ass. Get off the road so I can get home from work. Some of us don't have time to spend all day blocking traffic because we don't like the rules.
    Last edited by Gunny; 10-25-2022 at 11:18 AM.
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