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    Default Question for the Legal (or just Wannabe) Types RE: Presidential Power

    I'm not up to snuff on this because I don't think we've ever gotten to this point. Closest I can get is Congress emasculating Andrew Johnson for trying to implement Lincoln's conciliatory Reconstruction policies. That Congress though was all Republican, so partisanship was not an issue.

    IMO, impeachment is out for the obvious reason: Replacing Moe with Larry or Curly goes nowhere.

    Anyone know just how far Congress can go to take away Joe's ability to screw up the country and now the rest of the World?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I'm not up to snuff on this because I don't think we've ever gotten to this point. Closest I can get is Congress emasculating Andrew Johnson for trying to implement Lincoln's conciliatory Reconstruction policies. That Congress though was all Republican, so partisanship was not an issue.

    IMO, impeachment is out for the obvious reason: Replacing Moe with Larry or Curly goes nowhere.

    Anyone know just how far Congress can go to take away Joe's ability to screw up the country and now the rest of the World?
    To the best of my knowledge there's only 2 ways, impeachment or 25th. Either way we get the hyena.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    To the best of my knowledge there's only 2 ways, impeachment or 25th. Either way we get the hyena.
    It would take homework, that's for sure. I saw a article back when and more than a few meltdown dramas ago where there was some bipartisan effort on some R's and D's in the Senate to "take back Congress' power from the Executive Branch. My emphasis on "take back".

    What powers does the President have that belong to Congress? And. could they affect at all our not-so-slow swirl round the bowel?

    Not that it would happen in real life. It would take a bipartisan or 2/3's majority to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    It would take homework, that's for sure. I saw a article back when and more than a few meltdown dramas ago where there was some bipartisan effort on some R's and D's in the Senate to "take back Congress' power from the Executive Branch. My emphasis on "take back".

    What powers does the President have that belong to Congress? And. could they affect at all our not-so-slow swirl round the bowel?

    Not that it would happen in real life. It would take a bipartisan or 2/3's majority to do it.
    They could enforce the need for declaration of war. End the red line nonsense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Anyone know just how far Congress can go to take away Joe's ability to screw up the country and now the rest of the World?
    You presume the whole of Congress cares enough about its own role to actually do something. If the whole of Congress did care enough then it would mean that a significant number of democrats are willing to take the necessary action. The best to hope for is that the Republicans do so well in November that the (D)oddering fool can do nothing but acquiesce to wiser heads.

    My other hope would be that a bipartisan group would go to him quietly and convince him of his errors but he'd have to get rid of Klain first who is probably more of a problem than we realize.
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    We have a man on the Intel committee in the House who was sleeping with a Chinese spy and the Speaker felt so strongly about his transgression that she did NOTHING about it. I am not sure that doing the right thing in anywhere near the minds of the criminal class that now infests Washington DC.

    I can’t help but feel like these folks are like the pro wrestlers who hate each other viscerally in the ring and then after the match get in the same car to go to dinner. I am trying to find a positive to point to and say there it is, there is what will be our light that brings hope, but I can’t find one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    It would take homework, that's for sure. I saw a article back when and more than a few meltdown dramas ago where there was some bipartisan effort on some R's and D's in the Senate to "take back Congress' power from the Executive Branch. My emphasis on "take back".

    What powers does the President have that belong to Congress? And. could they affect at all our not-so-slow swirl round the bowel?

    Not that it would happen in real life. It would take a bipartisan or 2/3's majority to do it.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    It would take homework, that's for sure. I saw a article back when and more than a few meltdown dramas ago where there was some bipartisan effort on some R's and D's in the Senate to "take back Congress' power from the Executive Branch. My emphasis on "take back".

    What powers does the President have that belong to Congress? And. could they affect at all our not-so-slow swirl round the bowel?

    Not that it would happen in real life. It would take a bipartisan or 2/3's majority to do it.
    This may give a start:

    https://courses.lumenlearning.com/bo...he-presidency/


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