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    consider the fact that the republicans hold the white house and can and have vetoed bills passed by the democratic controlled congress...

    consider the fact that the republicans in the senate can and have filibustered major democratic initiatives

    consider the fact that democrats in neither house hold a veto proof majority.

    being in control of congress with less than a veto proof majority when the other party controls the white house is hardly a very powerful position, now, isit?

    and true to form, you failed to address the differential polls that have shown, consistently, for more than a year that the public thinks MUCH worse of congressional republicans than they do of congressional democrats.

    consider that.

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    Consider the fact that this Congress is perceived (correctly so) by people to be Democrat controlled, regardless of veto power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    consider the fact that the republicans hold the white house and can and have vetoed bills passed by the democratic controlled congress...

    consider the fact that the republicans in the senate can and have filibustered major democratic initiatives

    consider the fact that democrats in neither house hold a veto proof majority.

    being in control of congress with less than a veto proof majority when the other party controls the white house is hardly a very powerful position, now, isit?

    and true to form, you failed to address the differential polls that have shown, consistently, for more than a year that the public thinks MUCH worse of congressional republicans than they do of congressional democrats.

    consider that.
    But....But....But....

    Please man, just realize and get over the fact that the Democrats made huge sweeping promises to get into office that they most likely had no intentions of keeping and now they are paying the price for their deception in the 11% approval rating they now proudly carry.
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    Polishing turds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Consider the fact that this Congress is perceived (correctly so) by people to be Democrat controlled, regardless of veto power.

    did you neglect to address the point that every poll for over a year rates congressional democrats significantly higher than congressional republicans, or were you dodging it on purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    But....But....But....

    Please man, just realize and get over the fact that the Democrats made huge sweeping promises to get into office that they most likely had no intentions of keeping and now they are paying the price for their deception in the 11% approval rating they now proudly carry.
    yawn.

    congress has a low rating. democrats in congress have a rating that is not that low...republicans in congress have a rating that is lower than the democrats.

    Accept this: as long as the democrats are way ahead of the republicans, we really don't give a fuck what the congressional approval rating is. We will will more seats in '08 regardless. The people have figured out what incompetent morons the republicans are....they might think poorly of democrats, but they can't STAND the GOP.

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    People can dream...
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    People can dream...


    that certainly is the general consensus on the one Steph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    People can dream...

    steph...I am curious. can YOU explain why every single poll that has asked folks to grade congressional democrats versus republicans for well over a year now, have ALL given a significant edge to the democrats?

    or are you gonna keep tap dancin'?

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    Americans no longer believe in congress, and democrats can no longer pretend republicans are the only party of corruption.

    I smell the hypocrisy.

    Corruption is a washington thing, not a liberal/conservative thing.

    Always has, always will be.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Well, Pelosi and Reid said they were going to take the US Congress in a new direction, and they have

    The Reid and pelosi Congress have a 11% approval rating - a record low in the histroy of polling

    Great job guys! Keep up the good work



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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    Americans no longer believe in congress, and democrats can no longer pretend republicans are the only party of corruption.

    I smell the hypocrisy.

    Corruption is a washington thing, not a liberal/conservative thing.

    Always has, always will be.


    Very true.
    It seems that 'politics' corrupts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    Americans no longer believe in congress, and democrats can no longer pretend republicans are the only party of corruption.

    I smell the hypocrisy.

    Corruption is a washington thing, not a liberal/conservative thing.

    Always has, always will be.
    but who the american people think are MORE corrupt is a democrat/republican thing. and the results of THAT poll determines power.

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    is this the blame republicans for everything hour?

    Common maineman democrats have to take responsibility for their short comings, just like bush and every republican in the house and senate and any politician.

    And, im sorry but your complaining about filibusters the dems did that with supreme court nominees and i dont remember republicans doing that to ruth I hate america beta ginsberg.

    True, bush can veto whatever he wants, but if you get enough votes you can override it.

    republicans are abandoing bush, so i dont think bush can veto anything without consequences in the sense, eventually republicans , enough of them could join the dems on an issue.

    what does it matter who america thinks is worse.

    they think we (republicans and democrats both suck) yeah democrats are in power, but as the elections shows, and now shows. Americans would be more happy with the donkey from shrek in congress, and princess fiona as president then what we have now.

    Youre being a bit partisan dont you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    consider the fact that the republicans hold the white house and can and have vetoed bills passed by the democratic controlled congress...

    consider the fact that the republicans in the senate can and have filibustered major democratic initiatives

    consider the fact that democrats in neither house hold a veto proof majority.

    being in control of congress with less than a veto proof majority when the other party controls the white house is hardly a very powerful position, now, isit?

    and true to form, you failed to address the differential polls that have shown, consistently, for more than a year that the public thinks MUCH worse of congressional republicans than they do of congressional democrats.

    consider that.

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    You are absolutely correct. Americans do vote for the less of two evils

    Excellent point maineman.

    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    but who the american people think are MORE corrupt is a democrat/republican thing. and the results of THAT poll determines power.

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    And why must it be that it is the dems could it not be the republican inaction to capitulate to the wise bills by the dems is the cause?
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