The World Government Summit

[revelarts]

I'm hand waving away do-nothing technocrats who like to get together in big rooms and talk to each other. Do I want those things that you don't want? No. But I don't really see those things happening.I see societies advance that choose the environments that allow advancement (as I've mentioned before) and I've noticed some/read some/watched some/ignored some/read headlines of some/etc. many of your posts on the subject. So based on the evidence presented I've determined that they are do-nothing technocrats who have largely zero impact on a free world. The other option is that they're not what I think they are at all and are in fact doing a great job (which I don't believe). As I've mentioned before I don't really see the logical outcome of granting freedoms, economic liberties, etc. for those that choose and then all of a sudden taking it all away. There is no logic to it.

This list:

Is a patchwork of things which might be good, might be bad, might be nothing, might be a lot of things but you put it together and it's a conspiracy. I put it together and it's just a patchwork of things which could be debated on their own individual merits. I'm surprised you left out the IMF and the WorldBank; low hanging fruit right there.

you say you see the parts.
so you do see it.
you just don't want to admit to the fact they these technocrats have planned to implement each piece and SAY SO explicitly in various documents and now publicly recorded meetings.

neither you I have to make up anything to see a "conspiracy" in the actions.
It's simply and admittedly been a long term goal for decades. Multi faceted long term goal.
To look at the various aspect we've both mentioned as just some random parts that could be either 'good or bad' is naive at this point.

So if you really DON'T want what they want, then you can't honestly act like the patchwork pieces are benign.
they've made them happen.
With the help of "global leaders" trained to embrace their goals & mindset,
who are "randomly" placed in nations across the world.

Sassy has mentioned the latest major attempt to steal even MORE U.S. sovereignty in the form of this WHO agreement.
https://archive.ph/j0O0e
Pushed by the usual suspects who also happen to promote the IMF, World Bank, World Court, U.N., Climate Treaties, E.U. Global food codes, Global Cashless Currency, etc etc
...coincidentally...

even if it was coincidentally it should be countered BY the idea of DE-Centralization... and nationalism.. and freedom and local sovereignty.

FJ, here's another way to look at it.
You agree that competition is Great for the marketplace and the people overall.
And you've told me you think it's even even NATURAL, as long a gov'ts don't interfere.

ONE world gov't, is a Monopoly of GOV'T, Artificially created and artificially maintained.
NOT by choice of the people in the market place.
EVERY step in the patchwork we've talked about is ARTIFICIALLY created.
And most is not even driven by real market need but ginned up by BS, like Climate Crisis, and one size fits all "solutions" to a Pandemic of the elderly.

ONE world gov't leaves no room for BETTER gov't 'products' that is, forms and expressions of gov't.... Like LESS Gov't, if you're a real conservative right?
I could take the analogy further but I hope you see what i'm getting at.
What you're advocating is a Gov't monopoly created by stealth, with no representation or options to opt out,
No nations to flee to when the ship of state goes (starts) badly.

bottom line it's ultimately BAD for individuals.
But if you're more concerned about "business" it's bad for MOST businesses too, since the gov't regs WILL, as always, favor the major players, not truly free competition.

[fj1200]

you say you see the parts.
so you do see it.
you just don't want to admit to the fact they these technocrats have planned to implement each piece and SAY SO explicitly in various documents and now publicly recorded meetings.

neither you I have to make up anything to see a "conspiracy" in the actions.
It's simply and admittedly been a long term goal for decades. Multi faceted long term goal.
To look at the various aspect we've both mentioned as just some random parts that could be either 'good or bad' is naive at this point.

So if you really DON'T want what they want, then you can't honestly act like the patchwork pieces are benign.
they've made them happen.
With the help of "global leaders" trained to embrace their goals & mindset,
who are "randomly" placed in nations across the world.

Sassy has mentioned the latest major attempt to steal even MORE U.S. sovereignty in the form of this WHO agreement.
https://archive.ph/j0O0e
Pushed by the usual suspects who also happen to promote the IMF, World Bank, World Court, U.N., Climate Treaties, E.U. Global food codes, Global Cashless Currency, etc etc
...coincidentally...

even if it was coincidentally it should be countered BY the idea of DE-Centralization... and nationalism.. and freedom and local sovereignty.

FJ, here's another way to look at it.
You agree that competition is Great for the marketplace and the people overall.
And you've told me you think it's even even NATURAL, as long a gov'ts don't interfere.

ONE world gov't, is a Monopoly of GOV'T, Artificially created and artificially maintained.
NOT by choice of the people in the market place.
EVERY step in the patchwork we've talked about is ARTIFICIALLY created.
And most is not even driven by real market need but ginned up by BS, like Climate Crisis, and one size fits all "solutions" to a Pandemic of the elderly.

ONE world gov't leaves no room for BETTER gov't 'products' that is, forms and expressions of gov't.... Like LESS Gov't, if you're a real conservative right?
I could take the analogy further but I hope you see what i'm getting at.
What you're advocating is a Gov't monopoly created by stealth, with no representation or options to opt out,
No nations to flee to when the ship of state goes (starts) badly.

bottom line it's ultimately BAD for individuals.
But if you're more concerned about "business" it's bad for MOST businesses too, since the gov't regs WILL, as always, favor the major players, not truly free competition.

You're misquoting me.
I didn't say I see the parts; I see a list of things such as the UN, TPP, NAFTA, etc. You inferred that I agreed that they are "parts." And you very much need to make up things for it to be a conspiracy.

I said that I don't want the things that you don't want meaning whatever end game you think is just around the corner.

If I maintain that free trade agreements are positive then why do you think I would accept your premise that everything is a patchwork of OWG? A FTA just might be a FTA.

Please point out where I've argued for One World Government?

[Gunny]

You're misquoting me.
I didn't say I see the parts; I see a list of things such as the UN, TPP, NAFTA, etc. You inferred that I agreed that they are "parts." And you very much need to make up things for it to be a conspiracy.

I said that I don't want the things that you don't want meaning whatever end game you think is just around the corner.

If I maintain that free trade agreements are positive then why do you think I would accept your premise that everything is a patchwork of OWG? A FTA just might be a FTA.

Please point out where I've argued for One World Government?

Entering into your aforementioned agreements, with penalties for not toeing the line, can easily be seen as leading to the "One World Government" that has been mentioned. As your own comment points out, trade really isn't free in reality. Europe is basically trying to control all trade in/by the West and give itself a cut for bureaucratic upkeep and luxury.

Note: I do not default believe that "free trade" and "One World Government" equal the same thing.

I get the point about signing up. Sign up for the US Marine Corps then tell them you were joking when you suddenly find out you had no freakin clue what you were signing up for

[fj1200]

Entering into your aforementioned agreements, with penalties for not toeing the line, can easily be seen as leading to the "One World Government" that has been mentioned. As your own comment points out, trade really isn't free in reality. Europe is basically trying to control all trade in/by the West and give itself a cut for bureaucratic upkeep and luxury.

Note: I do not default believe that "free trade" and "One World Government" equal the same thing.

I get the point about signing up. Sign up for the US Marine Corps then tell them you were joking when you suddenly find out you had no freakin clue what you were signing up for

It's not a matter of toeing the line, it's a matter of doing what's agreed to. As trump demonstrated we can always get out of a FTA. I'm not sure where I said trade isn't free in reality but I guess it's correct. Trade isn't free but FTAs get us closer to free trade.

Noted.