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    Just a reminder to folks, if you plan to travel not only out of the country, but even fly outside your own state - then starting next year sometime you will need either a passport (even for domestic) or a Real ID drivers license.

    That is all.
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    That's been true for several years hasn't it? Somehow it keeps getting pushed back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    That's been true for several years hasn't it? Somehow it keeps getting pushed back.
    Yups, was actually supposed to have started like 2 years ago, no? Covid and slow moving DMV got in the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Yups, was actually supposed to have started like 2 years ago, no? Covid and slow moving DMV got in the way.
    We seem to be heading towards our own Gestapo force, spearheaded by the dems.
    They will do anything to gain complete control over us.
    Corrupt, powermad and wickedly evil with no scruples and idiot Americans(educated to be "stooopidddd"), just keep on voting the guilty, arrogant, totally corrupt, filthy vermin into office.--
    I hope that those blithering morons will enjoy the chains that some future day will shackle them as well.-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    That's been true for several years hasn't it? Somehow it keeps getting pushed back.
    FJ, Somehow when i read what you say here.....And frankly in other replies to news like this.
    What I get from it something like,
    oh well, the trains to the camps were suppose to be here last year sometime, i'm not sure why it's taking them so long, ho hum, this is old news.

    in other places you're simply in denial but too often you make noises as if it's "inevitable" or the loss of freedom's and the fall into debauchery are no big deal... or good for big biz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    We seem to be heading towards our own Gestapo force, spearheaded by the dems.
    They will do anything to gain complete control over us.
    Corrupt, powermad and wickedly evil with no scruples and idiot Americans(educated to be "stooopidddd"), just keep on voting the guilty, arrogant, totally corrupt, filthy vermin into office.--
    I hope that those blithering morons will enjoy the chains that some future day will shackle them as well.-Tyr

    The Republicans are just as much to blame for Real ID as the Democrats, perhaps more so since it was Bush who signed into law the bills that gave us DHS and Real ID...
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    FJ, Somehow when i read what you say here.....And frankly in other replies to news like this.
    What I get from it something like,
    oh well, the trains to the camps were suppose to be here last year sometime, i'm not sure why it's taking them so long, ho hum, this is old news.

    in other places you're simply in denial but too often you make noises as if it's "inevitable" or the loss of freedom's and the fall into debauchery are no big deal... or good for big biz.
    Clearly I can't stop you from reading into my posts what you prefer to read into my posts. I was merely stating a fact that I believe this was supposed to be rolled out in 2016??? but keeps getting pushed back. I wasn't aware that this particular bit of government encroachment fell under the "mark of the beast" type of outrage I should be railing against.

    But overall I don't recall this being a loss of freedom and debauchery. More of something along the line of unfunded mandates. But either way I don't see this as akin to the Nazi propaganda presented to the Jews in the '30s that promised nice neighborhoods and healthcare to future victims. If you do then I'd be happy to read a post or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    The Republicans are just as much to blame for Real ID as the Democrats, perhaps more so since it was Bush who signed into law the bills that gave us DHS and Real ID...
    I say no to you good sir. Clearly Dems and Globalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    The Republicans are just as much to blame for Real ID as the Democrats, perhaps more so since it was Bush who signed into law the bills that gave us DHS and Real ID...
    Well point made but- hobbling the horse is no way near as bad as shooting it, stealing the saddle and knifing the owner when caught.\
    I was not a huge fan of Bush..--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    The Republicans are just as much to blame for Real ID as the Democrats, perhaps more so since it was Bush who signed into law the bills that gave us DHS and Real ID...
    You must be some kind of "LIBERAL"?!


    But Seriously, Bush/Chenney rolled in a LOT of unconstitutional BS,
    REAL ID is just 1 of the items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Clearly I can't stop you from reading into my posts what you prefer to read into my posts. I was merely stating a fact that I believe this was supposed to be rolled out in 2016??? but keeps getting pushed back. I wasn't aware that this particular bit of government encroachment fell under the "mark of the beast" type of outrage I should be railing against.

    But overall I don't recall this being a loss of freedom and debauchery. More of something along the line of unfunded mandates. But either way I don't see this as akin to the Nazi propaganda presented to the Jews in the '30s that promised nice neighborhoods and healthcare to future victims. If you do then I'd be happy to read a post or two.
    I'd be happy to read a post or two where you rail against any particular bit of government encroachment.
    Could you link me to some in your past post?
    I'm sure there are some, I just don't recall any.

    AH, I do you remember 1 thing,
    you were one of the few here who was VERY solidly against the unconstitutional kidnapping, jailing & torture programs the Bush regime brought in.
    I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I'd be happy to read a post or two where you rail against any particular bit of government encroachment.
    Could you link me to some in your past post?
    I'm sure there are some, I just don't recall any.

    AH, I do you remember 1 thing,
    you were one of the few here who was VERY solidly against the unconstitutional kidnapping, jailing & torture programs the Bush regime brought in.
    I apologize.
    There are plenty but I tend not to "rail." More of a measured, logical approach to avoid looking the crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    There are plenty but I tend not to "rail." More of a measured, logical approach to avoid looking the crazy.
    More like apathetic.

    Let everyone else post something that concerns them so you can come in and deconstruct. Makes you feel superior I suppose
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    Yikes, was just a reminder!

    Feelings aside, until something changes, please don't forget the options you have.

    May 3, 2023 is the date as of now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    More like apathetic.

    Let everyone else post something that concerns them so you can come in and deconstruct. Makes you feel superior I suppose
    Think what you like but I made a conscious decision long ago. And what is easily deconstructible should be decosntructed.
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