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    Default Sound of Freedom

    True story about Tim Ballard founder of O.U.R. (Operation Underground Railroad). They go after human trafficking. Staring Jim Caviezel.

    Opens on July 4th

    Can't wait to see it.

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    Interview with Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel.


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    This interview brought tears to my eyes.

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    Default He's a good, stable minded man.

    His life changed for good when he played Christ. Thanks for sharing this Sassy.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    There was a presentation at church last night regarding safety of our children. The presenters are members of the church. A married couple who are law enforcement. Actually the husband is retired K9 officer. The wife currently works in the digital forensics division and has a K9. She has a dog that can sniff out digital storage devices. Her dog is the only one currently in Arizona that does this. The dog was donated by Tim Ballard's organization O.U.R. The dog is trained to find hidden storage devices (USB, phones, hidden cameras, etc.) after a pedophile has been identified. Once those devices are found her unit looks for pedophilia stuff on them as evidence and to see if they can identify where the children are being held from info in the photos and videos.

    They showed a documentary titled "It Is Happening Everywhere". Very informative and disturbing. A part if the documentary was about a police department in a small town in California who asked O.U.R. to come in and show them how to determine if they had any trafficking going on. They were able to arrest 40 people.

    They showed that sextortion (blackmail) is being used to traffic teens who still live in the homes. They get them to send naked photos to their "friend" and then they are told the photos will be posted on Facebook, etc. So the teen now works for them in the sex trade. They pick the kids up after school and they're taken to a place and people come in every 15 minutes or so. They can see up to 12+ clients after school. One woman said she was trafficked that way from 10-13 years old. It stopped when she reached puberty and the clients said she was too old.

    Did you know that America has the highest demand for trafficking children? And that most of them come through Mexico?

    And one of the kickers is that once the children are no longer viable as sex slaves they harvest their organs.

    This is horrific and is happening right under our noses.
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    Had anyone seen the movie yet?
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    Default I haven't...It may be too emotional for us...With 6 grandkids against this World

    Saw this today. PLEASE WATCH TO THE END
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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Saw this today. PLEASE WATCH TO THE END
    I have 2 great grandchildren (6 and 2) and 3 grand children (24, 21 and 13). You can handle it. It doesn't show the vile stuff. Just the background planning and the operation. How they captured the traffickers and rescued the children. I plan to see it again with my daughter and grandsons. They need to see how easy it is to be groomed and stolen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
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    Had anyone seen the movie yet?
    I haven't seen it and probably won't. over the years I've listened to interviews, read articles/reports, a couple of books and seen documentaries about this. I've posted several here over the years in small doses.
    But I don't want to see it "dramatized". It's difficult to bare in the forms I've taken it in already.
    But I'm very glad it's out there and that more people are becoming aware of the reality.

    ---
    BTW another odd thing about the MSM backlash toward the film is that it's not the 1st film that's touched on the subject.
    One of the more recent ones that I'm aware of is the movie "Kidnap" with Halle Berry
    Other Films are "Taken" with Liam Neeson (where the famous line "I have a certain set of skills... I will find you & I will kill you.." comes from) & Sylvester Stallone's 2019 film "Rambo Last Blood" plot turned on a sex trafficking ring in Mexico/Texas.

    I guess maybe the big differences in those films from the "Sound of Freedom" are that in those films the Heroes were superhero level loners "with a certain set of skills" rather than a real human beings in the real world actually mitigating the problem.
    or, in the case of Halle Berry's movie, a mom who was crazy persistent & miracle level lucky.

    And the fact that independent producers, outside of the Hollywood machine, actually got blockbuster level ticket sales.

    Also I know Taken touched on the fact that rich elites were the buyers. But, If i remember correctly, they were Muslims... so I guess that's OK. You can say that rich evil muslims are buying lil white girls.
    But you can't say that rich and 'regular' Americans and our favorite politicians are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I haven't seen it and probably won't. over the years I've listened to interviews, read articles/reports, a couple of books and seen documentaries about this. I've posted several here over the years in small doses.
    But I don't want to see it "dramatized". It's difficult to bare in the forms I've taken it in already.
    But I'm very glad it's out there and that more people are becoming aware of the reality.

    ---
    BTW another odd thing about the MSM backlash toward the film is that it's not the 1st film that's touched on the subject.
    One of more recent ones that I'm aware of is the movie "Kidnap" with Halle Berry
    Other Films are "Taken" with Liam Neeson (the famous line "I have certain set of skills... I will find you & I will kill you.." comes from) & Sylvester Stallone's 2019 film "Rambo Last Blood" plot turned on a sex trafficking ring in Mexico/Texas.

    I guess maybe the big differences in those films from the "Sound of Freedom" are that in those films the Heroes were superhero level loners "with a certain set of skills" rather than a real human beings in the real world actually mitigating the problem.
    or, in the case of Halle Berry's movie, a mom who was crazy persistent & miracle level lucky.

    And the fact that independent producers, outside of the Hollywood machine, actually got blockbuster level ticket sales.

    I know Taken touched on the fact that rich elites were the buyers. but If i remember correctly they were Muslims... so I guess that's OK. You can say that rich evil muslims are buying lil white girls.
    But you can't say that rich and 'regular' Americans and our favorite politicians are?
    it's not white supremacy.

    it's corrupt pedophile supremacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I haven't seen it and probably won't. over the years I've listened to interviews, read articles/reports, a couple of books and seen documentaries about this. I've posted several here over the years in small doses.
    But I don't want to see it "dramatized". It's difficult to bare in the forms I've taken it in already.
    But I'm very glad it's out there and that more people are becoming aware of the reality.

    ---
    BTW another odd thing about the MSM backlash toward the film is that it's not the 1st film that's touched on the subject.
    One of the more recent ones that I'm aware of is the movie "Kidnap" with Halle Berry
    Other Films are "Taken" with Liam Neeson (where the famous line "I have a certain set of skills... I will find you & I will kill you.." comes from) & Sylvester Stallone's 2019 film "Rambo Last Blood" plot turned on a sex trafficking ring in Mexico/Texas.

    I guess maybe the big differences in those films from the "Sound of Freedom" are that in those films the Heroes were superhero level loners "with a certain set of skills" rather than a real human beings in the real world actually mitigating the problem.
    or, in the case of Halle Berry's movie, a mom who was crazy persistent & miracle level lucky.

    And the fact that independent producers, outside of the Hollywood machine, actually got blockbuster level ticket sales.

    I know Taken touched on the fact that rich elites were the buyers. but If i remember correctly they were Muslims... so I guess that's OK. You can say that rich evil muslims are buying lil white girls.
    But you can't say that rich and 'regular' Americans and our favorite politicians are?
    Excellent post. Problem identified. Any particular way you intend to solve this problem? Which global organization that you don't support do you propose to use to solve this issue? That is the first thing you have to have, along with the support of all the governments in the World. Or do you suggest the US go cowboying off again into whichever foreign country it chooses after targets it chooses, regardless borders, laws and whatnot?

    And yes, I am using your own arguments against you.

    Then there's the fact that outside the Western World, pedophilia is just a word, and its age limits rather new compared to World history. I know for a fact Africa, the ME and/or Asia have completely different views on females and children. They don't care what we think is right or wrong.

    Just to be clear, I'm for killing anyone for harming a child. But you are asking our spineless government to dictate to the World a World standard? Problem with that is who is going to investigate our government? DoJ?
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Excellent post. Problem identified. Any particular way you intend to solve this problem? Which global organization that you don't support do you propose to use to solve this issue? That is the first thing you have to have, along with the support of all the governments in the World. Or do you suggest the US go cowboying off again into whichever foreign country it chooses after targets it chooses, regardless borders, laws and whatnot?

    And yes, I am using your own arguments against you.

    Then there's the fact that outside the Western World, pedophilia is just a word, and its age limits rather new compared to World history. I know for a fact Africa, the ME and/or Asia have completely different views on females and children. They don't care what we think is right or wrong.

    Just to be clear, I'm for killing anyone for harming a child. But you are asking our spineless government to dictate to the World a World standard? Problem with that is who is going to investigate our government? DoJ?
    Start by supporting Tim Ballard's O.U.R. he's got global support.

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    O.U.R. it's also fighting child sacrifice. Child sacrifice isn't decreasing. It's increasing.

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    Part 2 of child sacrifice rescue operation information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny
    Excellent post. Problem identified. Any particular way you intend to solve this problem? Which global organization that you don't support do you propose to use to solve this issue? That is the first thing you have to have, along with the support of all the governments in the World. Or do you suggest the US go cowboying off again into whichever foreign country it chooses after targets it chooses, regardless borders, laws and whatnot?
    And yes, I am using your own arguments against you.
    Then there's the fact that outside the Western World, pedophilia is just a word, and its age limits rather new compared to World history. I know for a fact Africa, the ME and/or Asia have completely different views on females and children. They don't care what we think is right or wrong.
    Just to be clear, I'm for killing anyone for harming a child. But you are asking our spineless government to dictate to the World a World standard? Problem with that is who is going to investigate our government? DoJ?
    Start by supporting Tim Ballard's O.U.R. he's got global support.

    yep
    And other orgs that help down the line from that kind of work.


    Also how about starting at home cleaning our own house?
    Epstein was American, Maxwell and ---were guessing here because the FBI hasn't brought cases--- that their "clients" were mostly Americans.

    The NSA FBI & CIA And other agencies are unconstitutionally monitoring/recording EVERYTHING ONLINE, PHONE & SNAIL MAIL inside the U.S. -- & coming into and going out of the country--
    But somehow the problem of online childp0rn and trafficking has increased.

    U.S. law enforcement knows of the international hotspots for sex travel AND knows every U.S. man, woman, child's international travel destinations world wide via passports. Which have been in place even before homeland security and the useless unconstitutional TSA.

    The U.S. boarder has let in 10s of thousands of undocumented minors who have disappeared into the country.
    And according to gov't whistle blower reports it's WELL KNOWN that some of the groups taking in minors from U.S. Immigration Control are scumbags.

    I'm sure there are many other things that could be done.
    Many real world things to be done without ever leaving U.S. jurisdiction that could put a major dent in the horror show.
    And by those things setting an example of ways to handle it and being a moral example for those parts of the world that don't hold to the same standards.

    As a "world leader" I've got no problem with U.S. shaming other nations on this issue. We've got satellites, spies & military everywhere in the world. Would it be hard to expose publicly around the world other nations horror shows on this issue?
    And promote other nations successes?
    Not every international problem has to be dealt with by a guns or even sanctions.
    Also, Somehow we managed to legally cooperate with countries world wide on catching "terrorist" & getting info, convictions & cooperation on drugs cartels world wide... when we've wanted too. Is that so hard with this issue?

    There are no perfect or universal solutions. (until Jesus returns) but there's plenty of room for mitigation.
    No one can keep all the flies, roaches or mice out of their home, but there's plenty that can be done to make it FAR less likely.
    Helps if all the neighbors do the similar, but bottom line their homes are not ours.
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