Globalists

[fj1200]

Evil geniuses or incompetent technocrats? What does the evidence say?

[SassyLady]

Both.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The usual, evil, greedy, POWERMAD, HUNGRY, do not give a damn about anybody else bastards.
The same kind as history has revealed so many times to be concerned about only Self and Wealth AND POWER.
In other words, sub human scum that truly do serve a hot piece of lead flying a super-sonic speeds -right between their ffkking eyes, imho.
And yes, they are not imaginary, fairies, unicorns- elves, or trolls.
They are people that are totally evil and so very deserving of a quick dispatching, imho....
since they do seriously champion eliminating at least 3 billion humans from this planet.
Sceptism of the very real threat, to me shows, a total and truly massive ignorance of truth, reality and the wherewithal to understand that one must open eyes to see a threat, in order to meet it and hopefully survive once in its path....
A little wisdom/insight that my brilliant, brave and honorable father made damn sure that his seven sons had in spades.
Sarcasm always being a damn poor very, very poor substitue for having intelligence, bravery and a conviction/willingness to take counteraction against a very real threat, n'est-ce pas ... --Tyr

[fj1200]

Both.

It's kind of hard to be a genius AND incompetent. At least in the context of the question. :shrug:

The usual, evil, greedy, POWERMAD, HUNGRY, do not give a damn about anybody else bastards.
...... --Tyr

All of that is not evidence.

[AHZ]

It's kind of hard to be a genius AND incompetent. At least in the context of the question. :shrug:



All of that is not evidence.

genius and incompetence often go hand in hand.

spergy geniuses often don't get how the world works and start invent mad scientist things to kill everybody.

they're prone to a eugenics ideology, being semi human spergs.

[fj1200]

genius and incompetence often go hand in hand.

spergy geniuses often don't get how the world works and start invent mad scientist things to kill everybody.

they're prone to a eugenics ideology, being semi human spergs.

It's kind of hard to be a genius AND incompetent. At least in the context of the question.

[Kathianne]

[AHZ]

[Gunny]

Evil geniuses or incompetent technocrats? What does the evidence say?

What DOES the evidence say?

[fj1200]

What DOES the evidence say?

As laid out in my previous musings;

"I see societies advance that choose the environments that allow advancement... So based on the evidence presented I've determined that they are do-nothing technocrats who have largely zero impact on a free world. The other option is that they're not what I think they are at all and are in fact doing a great job (which I don't believe). As I've mentioned before I don't really see the logical outcome of granting freedoms, economic liberties, etc. for those that choose and then all of a sudden taking it all away. There is no logic to it.

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My issue is that either these insitutions are so inept that they've failed, for close to 80 years now, to impose their governmental control on the world to the detriment of countries who choose liberalized economies; or that they've been controlling things so much that those countries that have liberalized their economies will have all their economic gains wiped out when the powers that be impose massive controls. The latter making no logical sense."

I'm going with incompetent technocrats... if there are any out there that identify as globalists.

But I await submittal of further evidence.

[fj1200]

Other previous musings:

"I just don't see what you see. We can both look at post WWII history and see the growth of international organizations, partnerships, global corporations, etc. and see completely different things. I see liberalization of global trade that will benefit everyone who chooses to take part and you see coalitions of organizations to take power away from the people. The thing is that I look at the benefits that have come to the world with increased freedoms for billions of people with increases in almost any measure of economic advancement... I don't know if you agree with that last sentence or not but it is not a logical conclusion to me that all of this liberalization has been granted until the rug gets pulled out from underneath the whole thing. All due respect I just don't see that."

[revelarts]

As laid out in my previous musings;

"I see societies advance that choose the environments that allow advancement... So based on the evidence presented I've determined that they are do-nothing technocrats who have largely zero impact on a free world. The other option is that they're not what I think they are at all and are in fact doing a great job (which I don't believe). As I've mentioned before I don't really see the logical outcome of granting freedoms, economic liberties, etc. for those that choose and then all of a sudden taking it all away. There is no logic to it.

...

My issue is that either these insitutions are so inept that they've failed, for close to 80 years now, to impose their governmental control on the world to the detriment of countries who choose liberalized economies; or that they've been controlling things so much that those countries that have liberalized their economies will have all their economic gains wiped out when the powers that be impose massive controls. The latter making no logical sense."

I'm going with incompetent technocrats... if there are any out there that identify as globalists.

But I await submittal of further evidence.

So says the Council for the Defense, FJ1200 esquire.

[Gunny]

As laid out in my previous musings;

"I see societies advance that choose the environments that allow advancement... So based on the evidence presented I've determined that they are do-nothing technocrats who have largely zero impact on a free world. The other option is that they're not what I think they are at all and are in fact doing a great job (which I don't believe). As I've mentioned before I don't really see the logical outcome of granting freedoms, economic liberties, etc. for those that choose and then all of a sudden taking it all away. There is no logic to it.

...

My issue is that either these insitutions are so inept that they've failed, for close to 80 years now, to impose their governmental control on the world to the detriment of countries who choose liberalized economies; or that they've been controlling things so much that those countries that have liberalized their economies will have all their economic gains wiped out when the powers that be impose massive controls. The latter making no logical sense."

I'm going with incompetent technocrats... if there are any out there that identify as globalists.

But I await submittal of further evidence.

I am going to ponder this a bit before responding. It's a complex topic. I don't necessarily disagree with your point(s). It narrows the topic down too far.

[fj1200]

So says the Council for the Defense, FJ1200 esquire.

In for evidence that the devil exists while your at it.

I am going to ponder this a bit before responding. It's a complex topic. I don't necessarily disagree with your point(s). It narrows the topic down too far.

Just trying to get some discussion going.

[Gunny]

In for evidence that the devil exists while your at it.



Just trying to get some discussion going.

I got that part.

In as far as "why?" goes ... the movie "The Matrix" provides the best answer. Humans with no reason to live make lousy batteries. They don't perform well nor last very long. Humans need hope. They need to believe that they will be rewarded for excelling. If you're just another sheep, what's the point of working harder than the next guy? Give humans hope and they strive to be more productive and innovative.

That would be the best reason I can think of to keep the pretext of "freedom" and "choice". If there's no hope, there's no point. When you blow off the smoke, the reality is, we all work to pay taxes to keep a bureaucracy (machine) moving.

Having been part of that "machine", I don't think there is a conscious, collective awareness by those that support and defend it. They believe what they are taught by the bureaucracy and it's satellite tentacles. At all level of our society, you comply or you get locked up.

I believe there are globalists as much as I believe there are Marxists fighting for control of our government. I just don't think they are this one, big group of global elites sitting at the Round Table deciding the fate of mankind. Their very nature says otherwise. Each individual/group calling itself globalist envisions global power with themselves, respectively, at the top of the food chain. I've not heard of one that doesn't have a person or group ruling others. Given that, any cooperation toward globalism is either advantageous at the moment, or coincidental. None are willing to nor are they going to share power.

The biggest threat of any real globalism is China because they are Hell bent on dominating and subjugating the entire planet. China IS the real, global enemy and should be treated as such at every turn. Hard to do when our President is empowering them while simultaneously weakening us at every turn.