Globalists

[fj1200]

Here's just one place in the world
where the digital/cashless society is "naturally" happening.

Greeks set to face heavy fines if they don't spend 30 per cent of their income electronically

https://www.theage.com.au/business/m...09-p53i14.html
Greeks will be hit with a hefty fine if they do not spend almost a third of their income electronically in an unprecedented bid by the new government to stamp out rampant tax evasion.
The government expects to raise more than €500 million ($808 million) every year from the initiative that will force Greeks to spend 30 per cent of their income electronically, Alex Patelis, the prime minister's chief economic adviser, revealed....

...But many workers are paid their wages in cash, which they then use to pay their rent and bills. Greece also has one of the lowest internet usage rates in the EU at 72 per cent. ..."

But The government HAS to DO something right?
the fact that the excuse aligns with Globalist goals is just COINCIDENCE.
Not sure what the Greek prime minister's affiliation with the WEF or other gloabalist groups are but i guess i wouldn't have to scratch to deep to find another coincidence there.


But i do have a question for FJ.
Are you for or against a cashless society

If for it, should it be up for a PUBLIC vote?

I think your answer is here...

to stamp out rampant tax evasion.

The coincidence is that Greece is, and has been, and will continue to be, a complete cluster... which shouldn't be shocking to anyone.

I am neither for nor against it but I doubt it will be here any time soon.

[Gunny]

FJ, 2 simple questions?
How many politicians in 100 + years have self IDd as populist?
Have populist done anything In the US?

Grasping at straws now

Question, rev ... are populists globalists?

[fj1200]

Grasping at straws now

Question, rev ... are populists globalists?

Now, now. It was a fair question but I knew where he was going.

But I think anti-globalists are populists. It seems to be checking the boxes IMHO.

[Gunny]

Now, now. It was a fair question but I knew where he was going.

But I think anti-globalists are populists. It seems to be checking the boxes IMHO.

I still haven't figured what either a populist or globalist is. Right about the time I get one or the other figured out, the goal posts get moved

[revelarts]

I think your answer is here...

So you believe the Greek officials have only one agenda.
taxes?
Like the U.S. said it attacked Iraq... for WMDs.
OK

The coincidence is that Greece is, and has been, and will continue to be, a complete cluster... which shouldn't be shocking to anyone.

ANd the best way to deal with it is by using globalist solutions.
unpopular with the people of that "democracy".
OK

I am neither for nor against it but I doubt it will be here any time soon.

Neither For or Against it?
I don't believe you but OK.

the 2nd part of the question was,
Do you think the people should have a say in whether or not it happens?
Or do you think it should just happen "naturally" ... that is by the will of certain plutocrats, bankers and politicians ... globalist... who lives it will make richer and make everyone else easier for them to control?

[fj1200]

So you believe the Greek officials have only one agenda.
taxes?
Like the U.S. said it attacked Iraq... for WMDs.
OK

ANd the best way to deal with it is by using globalist solutions.
unpopular with the people of that "democracy".
OK

Considering that Greece is the global poster child for governmental mismanagement and generally incompetent ideas of financial planning; I'd say that's an easier jump than the rollout of future globalist domination. If it is a globalist rollout then I'm glad that they started with Greece because surely it will bomb in spectacular fashion, being Greece and all, convincing the rest of the world that globalist are truly incompetent technocrats and not evil geniuses.

But you got an Iraq WMD dig in. Winning!

Neither For or Against it?
I don't believe you but OK.

the 2nd part of the question was,
Do you think the people should have a say in whether or not it happens?
Or do you think it should just happen "naturally" ... that is by the will of certain plutocrats, bankers and politicians ... globalist... who lives it will make richer and make everyone else easier for them to control?

What's not to believe? But you know I was thinking a little more about your question and I feel I must expand a little. I would be against governmental mandates because small government and all. And I also think it would be a fairly spectacular failure especially for those least able to make the transition.

Secondly, in the unlikely event that it did happen then you're choice was made by our republican form of government or that UPS naturally decided that they no longer want to deal in cash. I have faith that our republican wouldn't go down that path but it also doesn't bother me that UPS won't take cash.

[Gunny]

Considering that Greece is the global poster child for governmental mismanagement and generally incompetent ideas of financial planning; I'd say that's an easier jump than the rollout of future globalist domination. If it is a globalist rollout then I'm glad that they started with Greece because surely it will bomb in spectacular fashion, being Greece and all, convincing the rest of the world that globalist are truly incompetent technocrats and not evil geniuses.

But you got an Iraq WMD dig in. Winning!



What's not to believe? But you know I was thinking a little more about your question and I feel I must expand a little. I would be against governmental mandates because small government and all. And I also think it would be a fairly spectacular failure especially for those least able to make the transition.

Secondly, in the unlikely event that it did happen then you're choice was made by our republican form of government or that UPS naturally decided that they no longer want to deal in cash. I have faith that our republican wouldn't go down that path but it also doesn't bother me that UPS won't take cash.

Sure am glad I'm half-planning a one-way trip to Greece

[revelarts]

Considering that Greece is the global poster child for governmental mismanagement and generally incompetent ideas of financial planning; I'd say that's an easier jump than the rollout of future globalist domination. If it is a globalist rollout then I'm glad that they started with Greece because surely it will bomb in spectacular fashion, being Greece and all, convincing the rest of the world that globalist are truly incompetent technocrats and not evil geniuses.

But you got an Iraq WMD dig in. Winning!



What's not to believe? But you know I was thinking a little more about your question and I feel I must expand a little. I would be against governmental mandates because small government and all. And I also think it would be a fairly spectacular failure especially for those least able to make the transition.

Secondly, in the unlikely event that it did happen then you're choice was made by our republican form of government or that UPS naturally decided that they no longer want to deal in cash. I have faith that our republican wouldn't go down that path but it also doesn't bother me that UPS won't take cash.

uh huh.

again
Do you think the people should have a say in whether or not it happens?
Or
Do you think it should just happen "naturally"
... that is by the will of certain plutocrats, bankers and politicians ... globalist...
who lives it will make richer and make everyone else easier for them to control?

[fj1200]

uh huh.

again
Do you think the people should have a say in whether or not it happens?
Or
Do you think it should just happen "naturally"
... that is by the will of certain plutocrats, bankers and politicians ... globalist...
who lives it will make richer and make everyone else easier for them to control?

You ask dumb questions. We live in a Constitutional Republic. The people would have their say through their representatives. I'm OK with that; I'm not demading it be put to a vote.

And I know you don't like that the world is changing but the world is changing and habits are changing naturally with zero intervention by globalists.

(Source: Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco)Recent credit card and debit card transaction volume statistics show cashless payments are becoming the norm, and you may be wondering:
What percentage of transactions are in cash?
The 2021 Diary of Consumer Payment Choice has found that cash payments represented 19% of all transactions in the US in 2020. This was 7 percentage points down from 2019. So, there is a significant decline in the use of cash in the USA.

[revelarts]

You ask dumb questions.

That you can't even give honest answers too for some reason.
just dodge, deflect & dismiss items and assume you've made your point.

or u make BS Assertions without evidence.
like

...the world is changing and habits are changing naturally with zero intervention by globalists.

that's a contentless assertion VOID of anything but the your belief.. & or ignorance.

Similar to saying,
"Trump was elected with ZERO intervention or influence by populism."

Makes you feel better i suppose, but it's actually carries ZERO real info about any intervention or influence on events.

[fj1200]

That you can't even give honest answers too for some reason.
just dodge, deflect & dismiss items and assume you've made your point.

or u make BS Assertions without evidence.
like

that's a contentless assertion VOID of anything but the your belief.. & or ignorance.

Similar to saying,
"Trump was elected with ZERO intervention or influence by populism."

Makes you feel better i suppose, but it's actually carries ZERO real info about any intervention or influence on events.

I try and give honest answers. Even to dumb questions. Should it be up for a vote? Should abortion be up for a vote? Should tax rates be up for a vote? Should <fill in the blank> be up for a vote? Most things at the Federal level are not up for a vote? Only people and only two of them in one vote casting effort.

I made an assertion. I gave evidence. From actual backed sources. I expect your apology. Or a rebuttal. Either way. And my BS assertions without evidence?

trump is a populist. He was elected by the people who like his populist positions for some reason. You're entitled to your opinion whether it agrees with me or not. You don't even have to agree with my definition of populism. Doesn't mean that the issue can't be discussed like adults... assuming said adults present credible rationale for their viewpoint.

[revelarts]

"Globalists are not in charge of anything."
Except the things they bungle i guess.

look if they were outright dictators it all would have been done already. but they aren't... yet.
They are moving the pieces on the chess board using various amounts of influence and power and taking advantage of every crisis.

But Who's just talking about "free markets and free decisions" we're talking about the globalist actions to get what they want.
You're the one that's ASSUMING/Insisting that everything has been done/motivated by "free markets and free decisions".
As far as China goes it has been helped along by many globalist players from Kissinger to Rockefeller and the many multinational companies that have done biz in and with the People's Republic of China over the years. And helped them perfect the social credit system and CONTROLLED economy that they have now.
and they admire & promote as "beneficial" "natural" aspects of it to west and western leaders Fj.
People like former UK PM Tony Blair And his "institute for global change" which promotes vaccine passports. Blair said passports were "inevitable" (is that like "natural"?) and would be used for other things as well.

But hey you seem to have "free markets and free decisions" blinders on so I doubt you'll see the other agendas even though they have public websites & are having public conferences about creating world government.
it's all just talk.. and/or just happening "naturally"

Just an addendum
Was trying to find find this clip when i 1st post the above.



"it's the natural evolution"
covid is just an "ADDITIONAL reason."

But not a long term goal or anything he'd have (or had) any influence in establishing.

[fj1200]

^A talking head said something you don't like that speaks to your outlook. Sadly, that's not exactly hard to find.

[revelarts]

Former Prime Minister claims ID card scheme is 'common sense'
2020

TONY Blair is excited his failed ID card scheme could be renewed as the government set out plans to enable the use of digital identity cards across the UK....
The former Prime Minister was a keen advocate of ID cards for all UK citizens following the events of 9/11 but was later billed as an “entitlement card” to fight against benefit fraud.
A scheme began its rollout in 2009 but was scrapped in 2010 by the Tory/Lib Der coalition government.
But now, under Prime Minister Boris Johnson, the government is planning new digital ID cards for British citizens....
This comes after Dominic Cummings bids to transform the government’s use of data despite privacy fears.
In the new scheme, people will get an online identity which can be used for daily activities such as proving age, registering with a GP and buying properties from a different location.
However, much like when Mr Blair tried to introduce his own scheme, it has been met with backlash from civil liberties groups saying they would lead to sensitive records being “at the fingertips” of authorities.
Silkie Carlo, director of Big Brother Watch, said: “The idea of digital ID and vaccination checks could easily lead to health apartheid that few would expect of a democratic country...."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...nt-coronavirus

So the talking head got "the scheme" started in the real world back in 2008, but people ...who thought that talking head's globalist ID system was a bad idea... kicked it back.
BUT it's back again. And he leant his Talking head to it help it along again.
It's almost like they have goals.
It's almost like the parts are NOT natural.

But watch out for them Populist! they'll ruin Everything.

[fj1200]

Former Prime Minister claims ID card scheme is 'common sense'
2020

TONY Blair is excited his failed ID card scheme could be renewed as the government set out plans to enable the use of digital identity cards across the UK....
The former Prime Minister was a keen advocate of ID cards for all UK citizens following the events of 9/11 but was later billed as an “entitlement card” to fight against benefit fraud.
A scheme began its rollout in 2009 but was scrapped in 2010 by the Tory/Lib Der coalition government.
But now, under Prime Minister Boris Johnson, the government is planning new digital ID cards for British citizens....
This comes after Dominic Cummings bids to transform the government’s use of data despite privacy fears.
In the new scheme, people will get an online identity which can be used for daily activities such as proving age, registering with a GP and buying properties from a different location.
However, much like when Mr Blair tried to introduce his own scheme, it has been met with backlash from civil liberties groups saying they would lead to sensitive records being “at the fingertips” of authorities.
Silkie Carlo, director of Big Brother Watch, said: “The idea of digital ID and vaccination checks could easily lead to health apartheid that few would expect of a democratic country...."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...nt-coronavirus

So the talking head got "the scheme" started in the real world back in 2008, but people ...who thought that talking head's globalist ID system was a bad idea... kicked it back.
BUT it's back again. And he leant his Talking head to it help it along again.
It's almost like they have goals.
It's almost like the parts are NOT natural.

But watch out for them Populist! they'll ruin Everything.

He could also declare Men in Black a documentary and it would still just be an entertaining movie. And populists, or populist movements, have caused far more damage here and globally than a globalist could ever hope to.