Globalists

[Black Diamond]

So in another thread you're talking about taking out Putin ....before it's to late...
So why don't you want to just lay down for Putin since we have no say anyway?
How does Putin taking over change your life?
Wouldn't he prefer to take the US without a shot... Like the globalist are?

You made an addendum. Putin may try to take Biden out. It's illegal for us to assassinate another country's president, dictator, etc. It became illegal under Ford I believe

[revelarts]

You made an addendum. Putin may try to take Biden out. It's illegal for us to assassinate another country's president, dictator, etc. It became illegal under Ford I believe

I hadn't heard that Putin wanted to take out Biden. If I were him I'd hope he stay alive.
But I don't know what you mean about it being "illegal" for us. "We've" done it many times with no consequence.
And people like Lindsey Graham have in fact publicly called for the assassination of Putin. Months ago.

But that's not the point of my question to gunny.
It seems like he wants to fight Putin...even though Putin hasn't attacked us or tried to control our laws.
While the globalist have been changing laws here for years, from the TSA to the surveillance to the vaccine mandates and much more. None of that was Putin. And if people would have recognized all of it and more for what's its been, it could have been bloodlessly stopped.
Leaving Us all with more of the freedoms we have a right to , and the government with less bogus control.

[fj1200]

"Globalists are not in charge of anything."
Except the things they bungle i guess.

look if they were outright dictators it all would have been done already. but they aren't... yet.
They are moving the pieces on the chess board using various amounts of influence and power and taking advantage of every crisis.

But Who's just talking about "free markets and free decisions" we're talking about the globalist actions to get what they want.
You're the one that's ASSUMING/Insisting that everything has been done/motivated by "free markets and free decisions".
As far as China goes it has been helped along by many globalist players from Kissinger to Rockefeller and the many multinational companies that have done biz in and with the People's Republic of China over the years. And helped them perfect the social credit system and CONTROLLED economy that they have now.
and they admire & promote as "beneficial" "natural" aspects of it to west and western leaders Fj.
People like former UK PM Tony Blair And his "institute for global change" which promotes vaccine passports. Blair said passports were "inevitable" (is that like "natural"?) and would be used for other things as well.

But hey you seem to have "free markets and free decisions" blinders on so I doubt you'll see the other agendas even though they have public websites & are having public conferences about creating world government.
it's all just talk.. and/or just happening "naturally"

The problem all along is that you see things happening and ascribe those things to globalists. I do not. Your local UPS isn't not taking cash because of globalists and their ivory tower mentioning of cashless societies. You argue that I have blinders on; maybe so but I argue that you're seeing what isn't there. Besides, I said that they were incompetent technocrats not anyone who was in charge of something, let alone bungling.

[fj1200]

I hadn't heard that Putin wanted to take out Biden. If I were him I'd hope he stay alive.
But I don't know what you mean about it being "illegal" for us. "We've" done it many times with no consequence.
And people like Lindsey Graham have in fact publicly called for the assassination of Putin. Months ago.

But that's not the point of my question to gunny.
It seems like he wants to fight Putin...even though Putin hasn't attacked us or tried to control our laws.
While the globalist have been changing laws here for years, from the TSA to the surveillance to the vaccine mandates and much more. None of that was Putin. And if people would have recognized all of it and more for what's its been, it could have been bloodlessly stopped.
Leaving Us all with more of the freedoms we have a right to , and the government with less bogus control.

Those weren't globalists.

[BoogyMan]

There should be a third choice. Divisive and ignorant children who cannot understand there are more ways of looking at a problem than one that is fed to them from the hive mind of central government.

Evil geniuses or incompetent technocrats? What does the evidence say?

[Black Diamond]

I hadn't heard that Putin wanted to take out Biden. If I were him I'd hope he stay alive.
But I don't know what you mean about it being "illegal" for us. "We've" done it many times with no consequence.
And people like Lindsey Graham have in fact publicly called for the assassination of Putin. Months ago.

But that's not the point of my question to gunny.
It seems like he wants to fight Putin...even though Putin hasn't attacked us or tried to control our laws.
While the globalist have been changing laws here for years, from the TSA to the surveillance to the vaccine mandates and much more. None of that was Putin. And if people would have recognized all of it and more for what's its been, it could have been bloodlessly stopped.
Leaving Us all with more of the freedoms we have a right to , and the government with less bogus control.

Graham is an idiot. I can't remember the law that was passed
We are part of nato which is an org whose mission is to spread democracy throughout the world. Interesting we owe it to our allies but France didn't help us in Iraq.

[fj1200]

There should be a third choice. Divisive and ignorant children who cannot understand there are more ways of looking at a problem than one that is fed to them from the hive mind of central government.

No doubt. We've had think tanks, global consortiums, babbling former world "leaders", etc. yammering on for decades to little avail IMO.

Graham is an idiot. I can't remember the law that was passed
We are part of nato which is an org whose mission is to spread democracy throughout the world. Interesting we owe it to our allies but France didn't help us in Iraq.

If I'm not mistaken it was some sort of Executive Order. It came out of the Church Committee.

[Gunny]

So in another thread you're talking about taking out Putin ....before it's to late...
So why don't you want to just lay down for Putin since we have no say anyway?
How does Putin taking over change your life?
Wouldn't he prefer to take the US without a shot... Like the globalist are?

That's not an answer. It's a deflection. We're talking YOUR "theory", not reality in Ukraine. Your theories contradict themselves. How I handle reality does not.

I'm pretty focused on a real enemy that can be touched. You're focused on defeating giants that are windmills.

[revelarts]

FJ, 2 simple questions?
How many politicians in 100 + years have self IDd as populist?
Have populist done anything In the US?

[fj1200]

FJ, 2 simple questions?
How many politicians in 100 + years have self IDd as populist?
Have populist done anything In the US?

1. There was a populist party but I'm not aware that they ever garnered any measurable power. There have been politicians who have been referred to as populists.
2. People who have been referred to as populist have done stuff in the US.

[SassyLady]

Does anyone here other than myself and Rev believe Soros, Gates and Blackwater control a lot of things here in America that affect our life? They are members of WEF. They are using climate change to implement their ideology.

I wouldn't be so ready to blow them off as not threatening to our way of life.

[fj1200]

Blackwater now? Blackrock and Vanguard still?

[revelarts]

FJ its clear that, outside of the short lived populist party, there are few to 0 politicians or political orgs or influential persons or biz that assume the title populist.

But somehow in your mind they have been & are a great danger to America. But you haven't named one person group policy or law that own the title.
Obviously you are ascribing power to groups / persons that have none.
Everything you say is "populist" is simply NATURAL. Just part of natural Republican or Democrat politics.... Nothing else, your labels are imaginary... There is zero danger from these unnamed unseen "populist" boogie men you are so concerned about.

If where going deny realities lets be consistent.

Fact is its far easier to point out the Communist, socialist, fascists, libertarians & globalist. People, groups, policies & Their progress in the 100 years than any kind of populism.

the Globalist agenda and people attached to it are not hard to see if folks care to see it.
Even though , like socialism, it doesn't like to call itself by it's name in its policy moves.
sometimes it flys under the label "free trade" as with the TPP that Obama & Hillary were promoting.
sometimes it flys under the UN treaties, etc.
The plutocrats are very real and are not hiding what they want much anymore.
And its not National sovereignty, or personal sovereignty under the U.S. constitution.
What the globalist openly want is a world Federal govt run by them. And we are moving in that direction ... "Naturally"

[fj1200]

FJ its clear that, outside of the short lived populist party, there are few to 0 politicians or political orgs or influential persons or biz that assume the title populist.

But somehow in your mind they have been & are a great danger to America. But you haven't named one person group policy or law that own the title.
Obviously you are ascribing power to groups / persons that have none.
Everything you say is "populist" is simply NATURAL. Just part of natural Republican or Democrat politics.... Nothing else, your labels are imaginary... There is zero danger from these unnamed unseen "populist" boogie men you are so concerned about.

If where going deny realities lets be consistent.

Fact is its far easier to point out the Communist, socialist, fascists, libertarians & globalist. People, groups, policies & Their progress in the 100 years than any kind of populism.

the Globalist agenda and people attached to it are not hard to see if folks care to see it.
Even though , like socialism, it doesn't like to call itself by it's name in its policy moves.
sometimes it flys under the label "free trade" as with the TPP that Obama & Hillary were promoting.
sometimes it flys under the UN treaties, etc.
The plutocrats are very real and are not hiding what they want much anymore.
And its not National sovereignty, or personal sovereignty under the U.S. constitution.
What the globalist openly want is a world Federal govt run by them. And we are moving in that direction ... "Naturally"

I've never suggested that there is a "populist cabal" that is attempting to subvert US sovereignty by nefarious means. I've never suggested that populists share an overarching agenda that they want to impose on the world. I've suggested that populism is bad for reasons detailed in my ever popular Populism thread. Generally populists are individuals, on either side of the spectrum, who are running for office on particular platforms that I would suggest are populist in nature. Thankfully populist politicians and ideas haven't really taken hold in this country like they have in other countries but that doesn't mean that there aren't populist movements that are detrimental and should be defeated as an idea. One might argue we have more populist laws in the US than we have globalist laws. Hmmmm... Nevertheless, there are examples in that other thread that I'd be happy to discuss further.

And I believe I've stipulated previously that there are "globalist" ideas that I am not in favor of and oppose. But there are things that you list as globalist which aren't nefarious as you keep trying to point out; looking at you free trade. And you are certainly more than likely to keep pointing out that I said "naturally" but I am just as likely to point out how ignorant that usage is because you keep ignoring context.

I certainly agree that globalists aren't hard to see, there are plenty of websites out there pointing them out. But consistently speaking no globalist has been changing laws here just as no populist cabal put up trump and sanders to run for POTUS to oppose TPP.

[revelarts]

Here's just one place in the world
where the digital/cashless society is "naturally" happening.

Greeks set to face heavy fines if they don't spend 30 per cent of their income electronically

https://www.theage.com.au/business/m...09-p53i14.html
Greeks will be hit with a hefty fine if they do not spend almost a third of their income electronically in an unprecedented bid by the new government to stamp out rampant tax evasion.
The government expects to raise more than €500 million ($808 million) every year from the initiative that will force Greeks to spend 30 per cent of their income electronically, Alex Patelis, the prime minister's chief economic adviser, revealed....

...But many workers are paid their wages in cash, which they then use to pay their rent and bills. Greece also has one of the lowest internet usage rates in the EU at 72 per cent. ..."

But The government HAS to DO something right?
the fact that the excuse aligns with Globalist goals is just COINCIDENCE.
Not sure what the Greek prime minister's affiliation with the WEF or other gloabalist groups are but i guess i wouldn't have to scratch to deep to find another coincidence there.


But i do have a question for FJ.
Are you for or against a cashless society

If for it, should it be up for a PUBLIC vote?