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    Default And here comes the lawsuits

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    USA gubbbermint murdered how many to win the election? Several tens of thousands?
    They are a pack of jackals, imho.---Tyr
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    I don't see this going anywhere. The government doesn't have to do anyone's homework for them. I would think that's been made rather clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I don't see this going anywhere. The government doesn't have to do anyone's homework for them. I would think that's been made rather clear.
    I don't understand what you mean?

    As I've mentioned many times .. ivermectin was better than getting a vaccine. Now these doctors are suing the government for shutting down access to ivermectin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    I don't understand what you mean?

    As I've mentioned many times .. ivermectin was better than getting a vaccine. Now these doctors are suing the government for shutting down access to ivermectin.
    You answered your own question. In your opinion, Ivermectin was much better than getting a vaccine. It was not and is not proven fact. The whole issue is based on opinion. Opinions without evidence don't usually prevail in court.

    What I see as the biggest problem in this whole issue is it's one side's witch's brew against the other's witch's brew. Pushing ivermectin as an alternative to the vaccine is as irresponsible as pushing an unproven vaccine. Two wrong's don't make a right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    You answered your own question. In your opinion, Ivermectin was much better than getting a vaccine. It was not and is not proven fact. The whole issue is based on opinion. Opinions without evidence don't usually prevail in court.

    What I see as the biggest problem in this whole issue is it's one side's witch's brew against the other's witch's brew. Pushing ivermectin as an alternative to the vaccine is as irresponsible as pushing an unproven vaccine. Two wrong's don't make a right.
    Pretty much how I've felt throughout the whole mess. Yes, early on I tended to believe in general what Trump and Fauci etc., said was the best they could do at the time.

    It took awhile, less than 6 months is awhile; but the 'science' wasn't making sense. We all knew about masks, many even before the virus hit, reason for buying early.

    Then the whole 'social distancing.' While there could be some good in keeping folks further from oneself, there were limits, especially in schools to what was safe and practical.

    The facts of those groups 'at risk' vs the mandates on vaccinations was on its face non-science; still is.

    All of that doesn't make facts out of what the onset doubters were saying-with medical backgrounds or not. If instead of Covid vaccines their pet medicines were being touted, they likely would have had problems with them from the onset.

    To me, whatever one chose to do confronting the problem was ok. There could certainly be ramifications to one's choices, whatever they were. For job, family, or health reasons. I still would defend personal choices. If everyone could be that respectful, it would be a step towards civility. We don't have to agree with every choice, but respect seems due.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    You answered your own question. In your opinion, Ivermectin was much better than getting a vaccine. It was not and is not proven fact. The whole issue is based on opinion. Opinions without evidence don't usually prevail in court.

    What I see as the biggest problem in this whole issue is it's one side's witch's brew against the other's witch's brew. Pushing ivermectin as an alternative to the vaccine is as irresponsible as pushing an unproven vaccine. Two wrong's don't make a right.
    It's not my opinion Gunny. It's been proven that if people had been allowed access to ivermectin and other remedies doctors were prescribing the symptoms would have been less severe.

    The issue is that people were forced to take an unproven vaccine that did not provide anything that those medicines could provide ... less severe symptoms. The vaccine didn't keep people from getting covid. Maybe the vaccine made symptoms less severe but so did ivermectin.

    You'll see more proof of the scam big pharma perpetrated when more lawsuits reveal all the collusion between the agencies to force people to vaccinate when there really wasn't a pandemic.
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    Proven? Not so much. Nevertheless I'll take the under on both how many lawsuits come out and if any are successful.
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    So, you guys still believe the vaccine cured covid, kept people from getting covid and there's no proof it did any harm?

    Wow.
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    Last edited by SassyLady; 07-03-2023 at 11:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    So, you guys still believe the vaccine cured covid, kept people from getting covid and there's no proof it did any harm?

    Wow.
    Well, there you go my friend. Proof there are some people that believe in fairy tales. I knew there was..--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    It's not my opinion Gunny. It's been proven that if people had been allowed access to ivermectin and other remedies doctors were prescribing the symptoms would have been less severe.

    The issue is that people were forced to take an unproven vaccine that did not provide anything that those medicines could provide ... less severe symptoms. The vaccine didn't keep people from getting covid. Maybe the vaccine made symptoms less severe but so did ivermectin.

    You'll see more proof of the scam big pharma perpetrated when more lawsuits reveal all the collusion between the agencies to force people to vaccinate when there really wasn't a pandemic.
    There is no proof ivermectin nor any other home remedy uniformly lessened the severity of COVID-19, which still does not respond to the accusation in the lawsuit. The lawsuit alleges it government's responsibility to make it known that prescribing ivermectin is legal for making pretty much the same statement as I have -- it's not a proven anything except anti-parasitic for farm animals.

    Aspirin would make the symptoms of covid less severe. White willow bark.

    Making something of nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    There is no proof ivermectin nor any other home remedy uniformly lessened the severity of COVID-19, which still does not respond to the accusation in the lawsuit. The lawsuit alleges it government's responsibility to make it known that prescribing ivermectin is legal for making pretty much the same statement as I have -- it's not a proven anything except anti-parasitic for farm animals.

    Aspirin would make the symptoms of covid less severe. White willow bark.

    Making something of nothing.
    The whole of 'science' has been so twisted by 'climate science' and then the faked children/autism report on vaccinations, followed by Covid. The price on all of this will be paid on costs via government taxes and health of world.

    I believe the 'race' for vaccine for Covid was historical, mistakes were made. For the same reason a cold vaccine has not been found, the best that could happen was mitigation-IF it had been 'sold' as that, things for most people would have been fine. But it wasn't. Then Wuhan, Fauci, mandatory vaccinations and loss of jobs. Lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations in schools, in spite of real science reports of negative risks v possible benefits.

    Scientific method has been thrown out the window, BUT not just from pharma and government. Also the reactionary forces. It's become a new religion.


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    Default Great question Sassy...

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    So, you guys still believe the vaccine cured covid, kept people from getting covid and there's no proof it did any harm?

    Wow.

    Like I trust politicians, believe in Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny, PMSNBC, CNN, Dr. Fauci, Nancy Pelosi, Chucky Schumer

    and last, but not least....
    SLEEPY JOE BIDEN. The crown prince of Plagiarism, Lies, And the Wizard of STOOOOOOOPID. As for the HOAX vaccines....Naw!
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    There is no proof ivermectin nor any other home remedy uniformly lessened the severity of COVID-19, which still does not respond to the accusation in the lawsuit. The lawsuit alleges it government's responsibility to make it known that prescribing ivermectin is legal for making pretty much the same statement as I have -- it's not a proven anything except anti-parasitic for farm animals.

    Aspirin would make the symptoms of covid less severe. White willow bark.

    Making something of nothing.
    And there's no proof the vaccine is effective.
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