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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Did you actually read your link?



    But yes, lazy headlines; par for the course.
    BULLLSHAT.. How does political affect fertility factor? Talk about bullshat..... -----Tyr

    They discovered fluctuating fertility rates in some states were more strongly linked to demographic, economic and political factors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I can even agree with rev's response, as far as his personal statement. Although, I don't find it peculiar that the pharm companies and government see the results first. That's kind of how it works. The panicked, embarrassing public cries to the government and the government goes shopping. In this case, needing a vaccine, to the people that make vaccines.

    Sure it got rushed. So did the "Patriot Act". In response to the sheeple crying to the government to save us. In the case of the latter, it doesn't mean it doesn't work. Anything foreign introduced into the human body comes with inherent risk, and affects a .00X number of people.

    The whole topic is driven by nothing but fear. Fear of COVID. Fear of dying. Fear of the COVID vaccine. Fear of dying. Lest we forget, lots of people were dying. From the virus.

    Not to be forgotten also is the current Western mindset of refusing to acknowledge one could be wrong, to the point of making outlandish arguments based on cherry picked numbers, half-truths and/or outright lies.

    IMO, the worst damage done to this Nation, and most of the rest of the World for that matter, was done by neither virus nor vaccine. It's what government and people did to themselves in their own minds.
    No.

    we're not ALL TO BLAME.

    the openly eugenicist/ soft kill powers that be are, including but not limited to big pharma, the w.h.o. and their oligarch front men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    In today's World of instant, second by second news from around the globe.
    More people are being informed about the death rates that have been taking place
    for centuries.
    NEWSFLASH: The day we are all put on this planet, is the first day we lose of being alive.
    The final outcome is, and always has been DEATH. Unless somebody knows another reason.

    With about 8 Billion human beings now living on Earth. Most of the deaths are YES...Caused by Cancer, and other diseases.
    While the rest of the deaths...probably also huge in numbers. Are, in reality. Nothing more than the Outcome of
    BEING BORN, and time expiring for ALL OF US.
    That's the way I see life today in my 76th year. I know I am closer to becoming another obituary number, than to my birthday.

    but yet, big pharma and their oligarchs murdering people is still newsworthy.

    it's not "spoiled brat" alarmism.

    "back in my day we took our poison and we were thankful" lol.

    I mean ultimately, science is for fags, amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    BULLLSHAT.. How does political affect fertility factor? Talk about bullshat..... -----Tyr
    Ummm, it was two paragraphs down.

    For example, politically liberal places like New York and Washington, D.C., had the highest social distancing indexes and the lowest fertility rates, while conservative states like Idaho and Montana had the lowest social distancing indexes and the highest fertility rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Ummm, it was two paragraphs down.

    that's not a HOW. correlation is not causation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    that's not a HOW. correlation is not causation.
    Being distanced when attempting fertilization is pretty causative. But make of it as you will as the study was trying to determine factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Being distanced when attempting fertilization is pretty causative. But make of it as you will as the study was trying to determine factors.

    socially distancing is generally suspended within couples bedrooms, so I would discount that explanation, but I permit you to believe otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    socially distancing is generally suspended within couples bedrooms, so I would discount that explanation, but I permit you to believe otherwise.
    You should broaden your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You should broaden your mind.

    so you think social distancing also affected back alley conception?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    so you think social distancing also affected back alley conception?
    Less datin', less matin', less marryin', less carryin'. Not sure how you think it happens typically. But what you clearly don't understand is the flow of the thread, how it was conceived, how it's growing up, how it's becoming an adult thread based on what's alleged and what is supporting said allegation; You should start at the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Less datin', less matin', less marryin', less carryin'. Not sure how you think it happens typically. But what you clearly don't understand is the flow of the thread, how it was conceived, how it's growing up, how it's becoming an adult thread based on what's alleged and what is supporting said allegation; You should start at the beginning.

    god said, "let there be dipshits"?
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    "'Definite Causal Link’ Between COVID Vaccine Rollouts and Peaks in All-Cause Mortality, New Study Finds"
    Researchers estimated the COVID-19 vaccines led to approximately 17 million deaths worldwide, with the most deaths occuring among the elderly.


    But hey this study is not from the gov't so it can be ignored.
    I mean the gov't has no stake in not letting people know after paying billion for the drugs & after encouraging millions to take a drug.
    Plus they love taxpayers! they don't want them dying. PHFFFt.

    So please, can someone nit pick and poo-poo this 'misinformation'... until the MAYO clinic confirms it 3, 5 or 10 years from now.
    A new study of 17 countries found a “definite causal link” between peaks in all-cause mortality and the rapid rollouts of the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters.
    Researchers with Canada-based Correlation Research in the Public Interest found more than half of the countries analyzed had no detectable rise in all-cause mortality after the World Health Organization declared a global pandemic on March 11, 2020 — until after the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters.

    They also found that all 17 countries, which make up 10.3% of the global population, had an unprecedented rise in all-cause mortality that corresponded directly to vaccine and booster rollouts.
    Through a statistical analysis of mortality data, the authors calculated the fatal toxicity risk-per-injection increased significantly with age, but averaged 1 death per 800 injections across all ages and countries.
    By that calculation, with 13.5 billion injections given up to Sept. 2, 2023, the researchers estimated there were 17 million COVID-19 vaccination deaths (± 500,000) globally following the vaccine roll-out.
    “This would correspond to a mass iatrogenic event that killed 0.213 (± 0.006) % of the world population and did not measurably prevent any deaths,” the authors wrote.

    This number, they noted, is 1,000 times higher than previously reported in data from clinical trials, adverse event monitoring and cause-of-death statistics gleaned from death certificates.
    In other words, “The COVID-19 vaccines did not save lives and appear to be lethal toxic agents,” they wrote.

    The shots were the most toxic for the most elderly across all 17 countries analyzed.
    The authors concluded governments should “immediately end the baseless public health policy of prioritizing elderly residents for injection with COVID-19 vaccines, until valid risk-benefit analyses are made.”...

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...use-mortality/


    Look at that. It's from that ANTI-VAXXER group run by RFK jr.
    That's ALL anyone needs to know!
    No need to review "the DATA" or his source. it's a waste of time.
    Just read what the CDC says, they've got your back.
    Last edited by revelarts; 09-25-2023 at 09:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "'Definite Causal Link’ Between COVID Vaccine Rollouts and Peaks in All-Cause Mortality, New Study Finds"
    Researchers estimated the COVID-19 vaccines led to approximately 17 million deaths worldwide, with the most deaths occuring among the elderly.


    But hey this study is not from the gov't so it can be ignored.
    I mean the gov't has no stake in not letting people know after paying billion for the drugs & after encouraging millions to take a drug.
    Plus they love taxpayers! they don't want them dying. PHFFFt.

    So please, can someone nit pick and poo-poo this 'misinformation'... until the MAYO clinic confirms it 3, 5 or 10 years from now.
    A new study of 17 countries found a “definite causal link” between peaks in all-cause mortality and the rapid rollouts of the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters.
    Researchers with Canada-based Correlation Research in the Public Interest found more than half of the countries analyzed had no detectable rise in all-cause mortality after the World Health Organization declared a global pandemic on March 11, 2020 — until after the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters.

    They also found that all 17 countries, which make up 10.3% of the global population, had an unprecedented rise in all-cause mortality that corresponded directly to vaccine and booster rollouts.
    Through a statistical analysis of mortality data, the authors calculated the fatal toxicity risk-per-injection increased significantly with age, but averaged 1 death per 800 injections across all ages and countries.
    By that calculation, with 13.5 billion injections given up to Sept. 2, 2023, the researchers estimated there were 17 million COVID-19 vaccination deaths (± 500,000) globally following the vaccine roll-out.
    “This would correspond to a mass iatrogenic event that killed 0.213 (± 0.006) % of the world population and did not measurably prevent any deaths,” the authors wrote.

    This number, they noted, is 1,000 times higher than previously reported in data from clinical trials, adverse event monitoring and cause-of-death statistics gleaned from death certificates.
    In other words, “The COVID-19 vaccines did not save lives and appear to be lethal toxic agents,” they wrote.

    The shots were the most toxic for the most elderly across all 17 countries analyzed.
    The authors concluded governments should “immediately end the baseless public health policy of prioritizing elderly residents for injection with COVID-19 vaccines, until valid risk-benefit analyses are made.”...

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...use-mortality/


    Look at that. It's from that ANTI-VAXXER group run by RFK jr.
    That's ALL anyone needs to know!
    No need to review "the DATA" or his source. it's a waste of time.
    Just read what the CDC says, they've got your back.

    Actually, I don't feel that way at all. What I do think is that the numbers of young people with heart abnormalities since covid have risen. I want studies, this one too for that matter. We need to find the patterns and we need replication.

    I'll not forget what anti-vaxxers did with autism lies in Lancet. Likewise the nonsense of CDC and administration regarding at minimum inane statements on natural immunity.

    To a large degree I can allow your condescension and sarcasm roll off, as your charges are not true. My responses or non-response over the past years have been for the above reasons for the most part. WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE TYPES OF RESEARCH/STUDIES YOU AND @SassyLady HAVE BEEN POSTING ABOUT FOR THOSE YEARS. M

    My jobs have never been in medicine or science. I don't try and do my own research for the most part, which doesn't mean I'm willfully ignorant, I use my limited knowledge to evaluate what I do read. Thus my statement regarding natural immunity.

    Yes, I noticed the easy availability and encouragement to vaccinate and basically outlawing long approved meds that some felt, (later proved) were effective.

    Good on those that find such issues worth pursuing nearly as a full-time calling.


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    My sarcasm is not directed at you Kath, But someone who's name I will not say.
    but the letters to his name are F & J.
    Last edited by revelarts; 09-27-2023 at 06:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Actually, I don't feel that way at all. What I do think is that the numbers of young people with heart abnormalities since covid have risen. I want studies, this one too for that matter. We need to find the patterns and we need replication.

    I'll not forget what anti-vaxxers did with autism lies in Lancet. Likewise the nonsense of CDC and administration regarding at minimum inane statements on natural immunity.

    To a large degree I can allow your condescension and sarcasm roll off, as your charges are not true. My responses or non-response over the past years have been for the above reasons for the most part. WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE TYPES OF RESEARCH/STUDIES YOU AND @SassyLady HAVE BEEN POSTING ABOUT FOR THOSE YEARS. M

    My jobs have never been in medicine or science. I don't try and do my own research for the most part, which doesn't mean I'm willfully ignorant, I use my limited knowledge to evaluate what I do read. Thus my statement regarding natural immunity.

    Yes, I noticed the easy availability and encouragement to vaccinate and basically outlawing long approved meds that some felt, (later proved) were effective.

    Good on those that find such issues worth pursuing nearly as a full-time calling.

    you demand more scientific rigor to disprove vaccine use (in spite of admittedly correlational findings) than to prove people should take it in the first place.

    even with their billions you people are saying its expedient to go live with new drugs and test on the overall population.

    you people are sick.

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