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    Default CDC loosens COVID-19 guidance, regardless of vaccination

    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    About time.
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    ^I'm pretty sure that doesn't speak to the article and the new guidance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ^I'm pretty sure that doesn't speak to the article and the new guidance.
    Sure it does.

    Conspiracy said herd immunity is better than vax. Now CDC agrees it's just as good.

    CDC officials told reporters the new guidelines are an acknowledgement that most of the population has some form of protection from the virus, either from prior infection or from vaccination, and are unlikely to become seriously ill.
    Basically they're saying those who are not vaccinated are protected same as vaccinated. We were called conspiracy theorists for saying that since day one. Oh no, they said ... you must get vaccinated to be protected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Sure it does.

    Conspiracy said herd immunity is better than vax. Now CDC agrees it's just as good.



    Basically they're saying those who are not vaccinated are protected same as vaccinated. We were called conspiracy theorists for saying that since day one. Oh no, they said ... you must get vaccinated to be protected.
    It doesn't really say that. It's an acknowledgement that the covid of today is not the covid of yesterday for various reasons. The outcomes of vaccinated vs not were wildly different a year ago than today. And considering 2/3 of the country chose to get vaccinated decries just "natural immunity." 4/5 have some level of vaccination.
    Last edited by fj1200; 08-16-2022 at 07:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It doesn't really say that. It's an acknowledgement that the covid of today is not the covid of yesterday for various reasons. The outcomes of vaccinated vs not were wildly different a year ago than today. And considering 2/3 of the country chose to get vaccinated decries just "natural immunity." 4/5 have some level of vaccination.
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    Facts.
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    Last i checked they are still recommending same experimental vaccines for the "covid of today".
    (Which they claim is so dangerous that they are giving it to children.)
    And it's also the same natural immunity gained from all the other variants which seems to work against the "covid of today".... and yesterday.


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    CDC Now Says treat COVID-19 Prior Infection Same as Vaccination
    CDC the CDC epidemiologist Greta Massetti
    “Both prior infection and vaccination confer some protection against severe illness,” Massetti told reporters. “And so it really makes the most sense to not differentiate with our guidance or our recommendations based on vaccination status at this time.”

    This is nearly EXACTLY what ANTI-VAXXERS & Conspiracy theorist have been saying the whole time.
    What the OLD science "facts" has said for ... like 500 years... and somehow works the same (now) for covid.
    People .. DOCTORS & Epidemiologist! ... were BANNED from social media for saying what the CDC now RECOMMENDS.
    Even some of Pfizers own half-arse testing said the same.

    It's criminal the amount of Gaslighting and BS the politicians, Health "officials" & "experts" have streamed into the minds of the public.
    here's article talks about it and it reminds us of those that were major spreaders & believers of the DISINFORMATION about natural immunity.

    https://disinformationchronicle.subs...rior-infection
    ...Major media outlets such as NPR, CNN, Washington Post, and the New York Times, dutifully repeated back new statements from CDC officials, without noting they had reported the complete opposite last year: COVID-19 vaccines provided much better protection than prior infection. See this CNN interview last August, for example, where Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy allegedly shot down an “antivaxxer’s claim” about natural immunity.

    “We are seeing more and more data that tells us, that while you get some protection from natural protection, it’s not nearly as strong as what you get from the vaccine,” Dr. Murthy told CNN at the time.
    While the natural immunity versus vaccination debate has been controversial over the last year, what is not debatable is that midterm elections are coming this November. And with a majority of Americans unhappy with the President’s pandemic policies, perhaps the CDC is relying on “midterm science” to guide their new appreciation for natural immunity?

    The media’s forgetfulness of what they reported just last year on vaccines and prior infection is part of the pandemic’s Great Misremembering, a collective amnesia where we march in step to government messaging, while failing to recall prior statements and moments of glaring contradiction. For example when the media reported that the NIH’s Anthony Fauci was fully vaccinated and still got COVID-19, and then they misremembered to report his prior statement, “When people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected.”...
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    CDC has LIED to us, and the socalled "antivaxer"s have been right over & over again

    Natural immunity has always worked
    The virus came from a lab
    Herd immunity was never their goal
    the vaccines were never "99% effective"
    They'll have people taking 3 or 4 "boosters"
    the vaccines are not safe
    mask don't work
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    That appears to be the same list. Do you have a copy and paste file or is that from rote memory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    That appears to be the same list. Do you have a copy and paste file or is that from rote memory?
    Facts are facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Facts are facts.
    Yes. The trick being able to identify them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Yes. The trick being able to identify them.
    Bigger fish to fry. Monkeyox vax in the queue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Bigger fish to fry. Monkeyox vax in the queue
    As I understand they've had that available for quite some time. MP has been around for decades, probably longer if I were to care to look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    That appears to be the same list. Do you have a copy and paste file or is that from rote memory?
    yes.
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