How we got herd immunity wrong

[Gunny]

Herd immunity is achieved through vaccination OR infection.

Well sure, if you use the "you catch it and die or survive it" model

That's not what is/was being sold, evidenced by the fact we would not have lived the past 3 years of our lives the way we have under the survival of the fittest model.

[fj1200]

Eventually. Could have been done sooner following the Barrington model but Fauci and Collins squashed it because it didn't fit their narrative of needing to sell the vaccine.

Yeah, that doesn't exactly follow. Barrington was mostly about segregating the most vulnerable. A major part of their argument was that lockdowns had a more detrimental effect on the health of some than the lockdowns prevented from covid. Barrington is also not anti-vaccine.

Herd immunity is a theory that in practice does not work. It relies to much on selfless human beings (an oxymoron these days especially in our selfish society) doing what is best for the society as a whole rather than placing their own bullshit first.

In theory, only those who cannot be vaccinated are not. Those that are ill actually self-isolate instead of running to a hospital (or WalMart) to spread the virus indiscriminately because no one counts but "I/Me".

It's the same problem with most theories. They theory is fine until it runs into Man.

I don't think so. As much as the population is "immune" from the flu we can be "immune" from covid. We develop anti-bodies and over time our risk from contracting is minimized.

[Gunny]

Yeah, that doesn't exactly follow. Barrington was mostly about segregating the most vulnerable. A major part of their argument was that lockdowns had a more detrimental effect on the health of some than the lockdowns prevented from covid. Barrington is also not anti-vaccine.



I don't think so. As much as the population is "immune" from the flu we can be "immune" from covid. We develop anti-bodies and over time our risk from contracting is minimized.

Sure. "As much as we are immune from the flu". We aren't. They still roll out the fly shots every year. Those flu shots are now sold as "will lessen the severity of the symptoms, not prevent. It was originally sold as preventive, same as the COVID vaccine; which, is now sold as: "will lessen the severity of the symptoms".

The theory of "herd immunity" was/is sold as preventive. Theories are great. Hear the one about "the Big Bang"? Despite science, something is created from nothing.

Not that it will shock you, but MY theory is politicians used "herd immunity" as fast and loose as they used lockdowns, masks and vaccines. Pandering to fear without a clue.