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    Default Republican voters who refuse to vote hurt everyone else!!

    Some food for thought.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...yone_else.html

    There has been a creeping meme among some Republican voters indicating that they will refuse to vote because they are fed up with congressional Republicans. They are telling everyone who will listen how horrible congressional Republicans are and are asking, "Why vote when our representatives do nothing and get nothing done?"

    People who advocate not voting are advocating surrender to the leftist mob and surrender to Democrats who have ruined a perfectly good country. They are recommending surrender to the leftists who are persecuting Republican conservatives. There is no other way to read this: If you won't vote, you turn the reins of what power you have over to Democrats.

    There is no good that can come from Republicans not voting. The only thing that can come from not voting is certain defeat. Not voting is an unacceptable response to what ails America. The people who advocate not voting are the same people saying, essentially, that there is no hope for America under Republican control of Congress and the White House. That is patently false and frankly, distasteful.

    More and more, those who advocate not voting for Republicans in November are deliberately attempting to demoralize voters, saying things like, "No matter how I vote, Republicans never do anything,” or "I have been voting for Republicans all my life and they still don’t get things done. It’s useless to vote." No, it isn't.

    While the Republican party in Congress has been largely disappointing in their unasked-for moderation, the alternative, not voting for them, is a malodorous solution. Not a conspiracist here but I often wonder if these demoralizers are plants, deliberately trying to lessen the red wave of November. Ideally, they would win, but the winds of political war are against them at the moment, so they will settle for a less egregious loss. These cowards can be articulate and persuasive in convincing some to stay home in November. Such people should not be listened to. They are misguided at best, subversive at worst. And they are dead wrong.

    For the sake of argument, let’s say ten Republicans can be persuaded not to vote. Those ten will talk to their friends, who will talk to their families and coworkers, and before you know it, dozens of people are refusing to vote because they are demoralized. Don’t they know that the tactics of demoralizing Republican voters through phony polling and through people who keep saying “it’s useless to vote” are the very means by which Democrats win? (And cheating, of course, but that isn’t new.)

    Those dozens of people who have been persuaded not to vote by the round-heeled squishes may be the very margins by which a Republican conservative wins over a "progressive” Democrat, the very people who are destroying our economy and our culture. And with Republicans in office, conservatives stand a far better chance of replacing RINOs with real conservatives. With Democrats in charge, there is zero chance of things getting better.

    Surrender or fight back? Americans don’t surrender. They fight for what is right and good and decent. It is indecent to advocate not voting. "Surrender” is not a word in the American Right's lexicon, especially now, when the country teeters on a knife’s edge of socialism and communism.

    Vote-avoiders seem eager to surrender the country for their own petty snit. Get over it. No one can afford to stay away from the polls in November. All that does is to thoughtlessly hand over the keys to the country without even trying to protect what is inside our doors.

    Vote-avoiders are angry and perhaps they have a right to be. But anger is no reason for capitulation. Is it better to lose and feel virtuous in your righteous anger, or to win and have a chance to right this ship? Certain defeat or possible victory, what a choice.

    We cannot win if we don’t fight back. Ignore the self-righteous "don’t vote" types. They believe their anger is more important than fighting back. They will sacrifice your freedom for their comfort, much like Democrats. They have not yet learned the lesson that you don't foul your nest, then complain about the stench.
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    Back to the "lesser of 2 evils" when voting. It's a horrible feeling to be stuck in, but I think the long term consequences from the left and lack of opposition from the right, make it a necessary evil at times.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    We need a 3rd party for normal people.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    We need a 3rd party for normal people.
    I said same in 2016.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    We need a 3rd party for normal people.
    Andrew Yang is your man.

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    The establishment would never let a viable 3rd party happen. The filth on both sides of the aisle are making too much money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    We need a 3rd party for normal people.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I said same in 2016.
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Andrew Yang is your man.
    Want to see some Dem/Republican't bipartisanship? Look at the meltdown over Trump by the establishment D's and R's. Politicians and voters. Trump is an outsider who came out of nowhere claiming to be conservative and running as a Republican't. He was chosen by the left and the media as the R candidate and was NEVER supposed to win.

    And look what has happened because he did. Chaos and fascism, and ho-hum from establishment Republican'ts about the midterms because Trump got some people in as candidates.

    A true 3rd party that would sake this crap up would have to be not just a President, but enough Congress critters to tie up the Dems and GOP. We'll see martial law declared and the election cancelled before that'll happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Want to see some Dem/Republican't bipartisanship? Look at the meltdown over Trump by the establishment D's and R's. Politicians and voters. Trump is an outsider who came out of nowhere claiming to be conservative and running as a Republican't. He was chosen by the left and the media as the R candidate and was NEVER supposed to win.

    And look what has happened because he did. Chaos and fascism, and ho-hum from establishment Republican'ts about the midterms because Trump got some people in as candidates.

    A true 3rd party that would sake this crap up would have to be not just a President, but enough Congress critters to tie up the Dems and GOP. We'll see martial law declared and the election cancelled before that'll happen.
    Maybe they really did threaten Ross Perot's daughter.

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    Term Limits.

    People tend to vote along party lines. Term limits will at least get someone new in... not the same old lame ducks for 40-50 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Want to see some Dem/Republican't bipartisanship? Look at the meltdown over Trump by the establishment D's and R's. Politicians and voters. Trump is an outsider who came out of nowhere claiming to be conservative and running as a Republican't. He was chosen by the left and the media as the R candidate and was NEVER supposed to win.

    And look what has happened because he did. Chaos and fascism, and ho-hum from establishment Republican'ts about the midterms because Trump got some people in as candidates.

    A true 3rd party that would sake this crap up would have to be not just a President, but enough Congress critters to tie up the Dems and GOP. We'll see martial law declared and the election cancelled before that'll happen.
    I said same in 2016.
    Been saying it since this guy


    Missed opportunities
    Ross Perot
    and Ron Paul

    but that was "crazy"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Term Limits.

    People tend to vote along party lines. Term limits will at least get someone new in... not the same old lame ducks for 40-50 years.
    What are term limits going to do? Make the bureaucracy work harder having to replace its D's and R's more often? It chews up anything that even thinks of meddling with its existence and control. The Republicans are allowed to exist only as a focal point for distraction from who the real enemy is. Democrats currently exist to give the bureaucracy a white wash of "legitimacy", and a scapegoat in case the People and the truth get too close.

    Only Trump went after the real enemy of this nation and its people and look where that has gotten him and us.

    Only the people can save this Nation and its core values, and they're too brainwashed, stupid and/or scared. There's no "savior" going to come along and deliver us from the bureaucracy WE, through our laziness and apathy, have allowed to take control of every facet of our lives. Limiting how long a puppet gets to take the stage isn't going to do much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    What are term limits going to do? Make the bureaucracy work harder having to replace its D's and R's more often? It chews up anything that even thinks of meddling with its existence and control. The Republicans are allowed to exist only as a focal point for distraction from who the real enemy is. Democrats currently exist to give the bureaucracy a white wash of "legitimacy", and a scapegoat in case the People and the truth get too close.

    Only Trump went after the real enemy of this nation and its people and look where that has gotten him and us.

    Only the people can save this Nation and its core values, and they're too brainwashed, stupid and/or scared. There's no "savior" going to come along and deliver us from the bureaucracy WE, through our laziness and apathy, have allowed to take control of every facet of our lives. Limiting how long a puppet gets to take the stage isn't going to do much.
    For the same reasons the president has term limits. So the bureaucracy doesn't feed off itself. Two six year terms for senators should give them plenty of time to do something or get out and let new blood step in. Same with reps. Maximum 8 years.

    SCOTUS should also have a term limit ... not a lifetime position. Maximum retirement at some age? Everyone in government has mandatory retirement but not the government? Talk about self serving bureaucracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    For the same reasons the president has term limits. So the bureaucracy doesn't feed off itself. Two six year terms for senators should give them plenty of time to do something or get out and let new blood step in. Same with reps. Maximum 8 years.

    SCOTUS should also have a term limit ... not a lifetime position. Maximum retirement at some age? Everyone in government has mandatory retirement but not the government? Talk about self serving bureaucracy.
    You need to move forward. You're stuck WAY back there. The bureaucracy does, and has for a long time, feed itself. We get to foot the bill.

    In all honesty, except for things like tell us what to do, when to do it, and how we can do it, what exactly anytime lately has the US Government done for the People of the United States that actually was good, meant something, and has lasted.

    I'm sure there's something ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    You need to move forward. You're stuck WAY back there. The bureaucracy does, and has for a long time, feed itself. We get to foot the bill.

    In all honesty, except for things like tell us what to do, when to do it, and how we can do it, what exactly anytime lately has the US Government done for the People of the United States that actually was good, meant something, and has lasted.

    I'm sure there's something ....
    Are we disagreeing here? I'm confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Are we disagreeing here? I'm confused.
    You stated the reason for term limits is to keep the bureaucracy from feeding off itself. It already does and it doesn't matter who voters put in chairs in the Capitol.

    The idea that term limits will control doesn't take into account the DC infrastructure which has none. Some of those people are in civil service jobs their parents got for them, and they in turn got jobs for their kids. They're not going anywhere.

    There is no simple solution. You can't just "clean the Swamp". It controls everything from border to border. The whole thing would have to go, then you have to replace it or the country doesn't function, and what do you replace it with? People dependent of the US government for their existence.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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