DeSantis calls Russia-Ukraine war a ‘territorial dispute,’ questions US involvement

[Gunny]

I disagree with DeSantis where checking Russian aggression is concerned. He might have had a point in the immediate aftermath of WWII/beginning of the Cold War, but there's too much water under that bridge to just suddenly try and take it all back. Especially since we have been the stalwart geopolitical instigator from that time to this. Realigning responsibility takes time. Pulling the rug out is inviting disaster.

On the other hand, I completely disagree with Biden/Dem's blank check policy. Especially since Biden and cronies are robbing our stores tou supply Ukraine while not resupplying them. That too is inviting disaster.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...nal-interests/

[AHZ]

I disagree with DeSantis where checking Russian aggression is concerned. He might have had a point in the immediate aftermath of WWII/beginning of the Cold War, but there's too much water under that bridge to just suddenly try and take it all back. Especially since we have been the stalwart geopolitical instigator from that time to this. Realigning responsibility takes time. Pulling the rug out is inviting disaster.

On the other hand, I completely disagree with Biden/Dem's blank check policy. Especially since Biden and cronies are robbing our stores tou supply Ukraine while not resupplying them. That too is inviting disaster.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...nal-interests/

Desantis is actually totally correct on this one.

this war is fucking stupid as fucktards.

[Gunny]

Desantis is actually totally correct on this one.

this war is fucking stupid as fucktards.

Brilliant response

[AHZ]

Brilliant response

the truth is often simple.

look into it, hawk.

[Gunny]

the truth is often simple.

look into it, hawk.

Straight up: if you are going to continue with your personal insults against those who don't swallow the party line you have been programmed to parrot, you aren't long for this board.

Hawk? One thing you have proven thus far is that you spent ZERO time reading this board and getting a feel for it and it members or you wouldn't post such silly-ass trash at me. For instance, an informed individual that did his/her homework -- could be as simple as reading the rules BEFORE checking the "agree" box -- that individual would know there is a subforum in place for nothing more than people displaying the manners you have so far to rant away to their little heart's content.

[revelarts]

Even Bill Gates knows that Ukraine ain't no democracy.
"the most corrupt gov't in the world" is how it's been listed in the past. Maybe the reason why Hunter B was there before the war?
All the lines used to promote this (proxy) war are based in layers of BS.
(as has been the case since about 1950?)

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1630213714417729536/vid/1280x720/v58JpSWUzPmzGazR.mp4?tag=16

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_vide...azR.mp4?tag=16

[revelarts]

https://covertactionmagazine.com/



How Zelensky was Prevented From Making Peace in the Donbas
https://covertactionmagazine.com/202...in-the-donbas/

[AHZ]

Straight up: if you are going to continue with your personal insults against those who don't swallow the party line you have been programmed to parrot, you aren't long for this board.

Hawk? One thing you have proven thus far is that you spent ZERO time reading this board and getting a feel for it and it members or you wouldn't post such silly-ass trash at me. For instance, an informed individual that did his/her homework -- could be as simple as reading the rules BEFORE checking the "agree" box -- that individual would know there is a subforum in place for nothing more than people displaying the manners you have so far to rant away to their little heart's content.

Ukraine is a dum dum war, caused by us deep state nazi tards..

[BoogyMan]

I believe our problem is that there is no good answer to what is going on. The Biden administration is as corrupt as the day is long and has been embroiled in the corruption in Ukraine for over a decade, Ukraine itself has been a dumping ground for the trash ideas of the world including some of the worst the worlds cybercriminal trash has to offer, and Russia - well, there is just nothing at all positive to say there.

The inner isolationist in me wants us to mind our own business and stop pushing the world closer to a war our country is arguably not ready to take a lead in fighting, and the historian in me knows that if Putin is allowed to run amok we will be at war no matter what we do. There are no good choices to be made IMHO.

I disagree with DeSantis where checking Russian aggression is concerned. He might have had a point in the immediate aftermath of WWII/beginning of the Cold War, but there's too much water under that bridge to just suddenly try and take it all back. Especially since we have been the stalwart geopolitical instigator from that time to this. Realigning responsibility takes time. Pulling the rug out is inviting disaster.

On the other hand, I completely disagree with Biden/Dem's blank check policy. Especially since Biden and cronies are robbing our stores tou supply Ukraine while not resupplying them. That too is inviting disaster.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...nal-interests/

[Black Diamond]

Straight up: if you are going to continue with your personal insults against those who don't swallow the party line you have been programmed to parrot, you aren't long for this board.

Hawk? One thing you have proven thus far is that you spent ZERO time reading this board and getting a feel for it and it members or you wouldn't post such silly-ass trash at me. For instance, an informed individual that did his/her homework -- could be as simple as reading the rules BEFORE checking the "agree" box -- that individual would know there is a subforum in place for nothing more than people displaying the manners you have so far to rant away to their little heart's content.

Interesting how isolationism became the party line all of a sudden. I guess when inflation started kicking Americans in the face they got tired of hearing about billions going to Ukraine. And it's election season again.

[SassyLady]

This war has deleted our resources to the point it will be hard to defend against China if it decides to move on us. That's why it shouldn't be our war.

[AHZ]

Interesting how isolationism became the party line all of a sudden. I guess when inflation started kicking Americans in the face they got tired of hearing about billions going to Ukraine. And it's election season again.

protectionism is smart.

globalization is dum dum sauce.

[Gunny]

I believe our problem is that there is no good answer to what is going on. The Biden administration is as corrupt as the day is long and has been embroiled in the corruption in Ukraine for over a decade, Ukraine itself has been a dumping ground for the trash ideas of the world including some of the worst the worlds cybercriminal trash has to offer, and Russia - well, there is just nothing at all positive to say there.

The inner isolationist in me wants us to mind our own business and stop pushing the world closer to a war our country is arguably not ready to take a lead in fighting, and the historian in me knows that if Putin is allowed to run amok we will be at war no matter what we do. There are no good choices to be made IMHO.

Agreed.

Our "choice" was given away a century ago by Woodrow Wilson involving us in European politics/Europe's fate. WWII and the Cold War catapulted us into the leadership position. Our position in World leadership reflects what our society has become. We want to be top dog and called leader, but none of the responsibility that goes with leadership aka "have our cake and eat it too". It doesn't work.

Putin is the greater threat. What those who don't want to support Ukraine refuse to acknowledge as inconvenient truth is Putin is going to do what he's doing regardless. Obviously. So who's next? Poland? One of the Baltic States? My bet's on Finland since that POS Erdogan has made sure to block its entry into NATO. It'll be the next Ukraine.

Not to mention the US backing out of its NATO commitment will be a green light to Pooh. We won't stay the course. As usual Paper tiger.

From MY front porch, Ukraine is more of democracy than the US currently is. Since it has become more than we can hope for anymore, might as well support those still willing to man the damned line and die for it.

[Black Diamond]

protectionism is smart.

globalization is dum dum sauce.

People might take you more seriously if you didn't come off like a troll and use simple language.

[Gunny]

This war has deleted our resources to the point it will be hard to defend against China if it decides to move on us. That's why it shouldn't be our war.

Incorrect answer.

The Moron occupying the WH has deleted our stores to the point that it would be hard to defend against China with or without the Ukraine-Russia war.