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    ^Rant noted. I can only say that you should prove it. Guilty until proven innocent isn't the way we go about things in this country or hasn't been until we decided that each side should just scream at the other side from our sound-proof silos.

    FWIW Fox just decided to pay out 1bb dollars... That would pay for a lot of lawyers and investigators to prove allegations wouldn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I think the way you've come to the question goes to one the main turing points (stink points) of the issue

    Elections are not supposed to be handled by private corporations that claim proprietor aspects which they can keep secret from the public.
    From the VOTERS!
    That's just Crazy.

    How can anyone be sure of honest elections if rando corporations control access to the voting machines & technology?

    And folks like you don't even want corporations QUESTIONED or Accused by the media except under threat of billion dollar law suits.
    But somehow it all fair play for the media to Lie, slander & accuse public officials & politicians of all stripes.
    Fair to lie to every voter in the country without any penalty even being considered.

    But A "private entity" (that's running a public election) OMG NO ONE should accuse or lie about them that's "illegal".

    Sorry FJ, it's BS.

    I'm not sure if they did anything wrong, and YOU are not sure either.
    Seems to me it should NOT be an answer only Dominion knows for sure.
    Doesn't that make sense FJ?

    Or is the protection of Dominion's corporate rep from FOX by a billion dollar lawsuit a more vital legal point to you?

    I mean the corporation might lose something like .. well MONEY... we can't have that.
    Even if it means we never know if our national elections are corrupt i guess right?


    we need paper ballots. period.
    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ^Rant noted. I can only say that you should prove it. Guilty until proven innocent isn't the way we go about things in this country or hasn't been until we decided that each side should just scream at the other side from our sound-proof silos.

    FWIW Fox just decided to pay out 1bb dollars... That would pay for a lot of lawyers and investigators to prove allegations wouldn't it?

    ^Ignoring of the primary problems of public elections & secret tech and continued defense of corporations noted.
    Last edited by revelarts; 04-22-2023 at 08:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It's not frivolous because you don't just get to say what you want about another entity. Moreso here when they've got evidence that the on-air "talent" didn't apparently really believe what they were putting out.



    How about someone prove that Dominion actually did something vs you're being "not sure." The Dems questioned Bush but they didn't defame a private entity.
    It is frivolous. Ans speaking of "prove the election was stolen', what proven damages specifically were incurred by Dem minion? I haven't seen where anyone has stated they will no longer use Dem minion voting machines because of Fox pundits opinions.

    If it was "proven", I'm not even going look to see what shallow burden of proof the Dems had to meet since all they ever have to do is accuse and it's fact.

    I won't belabor the free speech thing. There's no such thing. The least they could do is be fair and equal. I can easily get over not being able to say what I want. Had to all my life.

    I'm NEVER going to get over unequal and/or unfair; especially, in law, where justice is supposed to be blind.

    How come MSNBC, CNN and/or the View, to name a few, aren't completely bankrupt? The can't read a 3 word sentence without something defamatory about the right. What about that sockpuppet in the WH all but declaring Republicans extremists with Marines in Dress Blue with a blood red background? No damage there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    ^Ignoring of the primary problems of public elections & secret tech and continued defense of corporations noted.
    The problem is I haven't ignored a thing. I'm talking about a lawsuit. I can easily discuss how we can run elections better in this country as a separate issue not tied to ridiculous Dominion comments by paid FOX talking heads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    It is frivolous. Ans speaking of "prove the election was stolen', what proven damages specifically were incurred by Dem minion? I haven't seen where anyone has stated they will no longer use Dem minion voting machines because of Fox pundits opinions.

    If it was "proven", I'm not even going look to see what shallow burden of proof the Dems had to meet since all they ever have to do is accuse and it's fact.

    I won't belabor the free speech thing. There's no such thing. The least they could do is be fair and equal. I can easily get over not being able to say what I want. Had to all my life.

    I'm NEVER going to get over unequal and/or unfair; especially, in law, where justice is supposed to be blind.

    How come MSNBC, CNN and/or the View, to name a few, aren't completely bankrupt? The can't read a 3 word sentence without something defamatory about the right. What about that sockpuppet in the WH all but declaring Republicans extremists with Marines in Dress Blue with a blood red background? No damage there?

    Wrong is wrong no matter how much lipstick you put on the pig.
    The truth is a defense to defamation. Apparently Fox chose not to go that route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The problem is I haven't ignored a thing. I'm talking about a lawsuit. I can easily discuss how we can run elections better in this country as a separate issue not tied to ridiculous Dominion comments by paid FOX talking heads.



    The truth is a defense to defamation. Apparently Fox chose not to go that route.
    Lose/lose deal for the defendant against an accusation by the left and institutional law. Which costs less? Paying off the accuser or going through the capitalist US judiciary and maybe winning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Lose/lose deal for the defendant against an accusation by the left and institutional law. Which costs less? Paying off the accuser or going through the capitalist US judiciary and maybe winning?
    Settling.
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