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    Default US scientists repeat fusion ignition breakthrough for 2nd time

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    (Reuters) -U.S. scientists have achieved net energy gain in a fusion reaction for the second time since December, the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory said on Sunday.

    Scientists at the California-based lab repeated the fusion ignition breakthrough in an experiment in the National Ignition Facility (NIF) on July 30 that produced a higher energy yield than in December, a Lawrence Livermore spokesperson said.

    Final results are still being analyzed, the spokesperson added.

    Lawrence Livermore achieved a net energy gain in a fusion experiment using lasers on Dec. 5, 2022. The scientists focused a laser on a target of fuel to fuse two light atoms into a denser one, releasing the energy.


    That experiment briefly achieved what's known as fusion ignition by generating 3.15 megajoules of energy output after the laser delivered 2.05 megajoules to the target, the Energy Department said.

    In other words, it produced more energy from fusion than the laser energy used to drive it, the department said.

    The Energy Department called it "a major scientific breakthrough decades in the making that will pave the way for advancements in national defense and the future of clean power."

    Scientists have known for about a century that fusion powers the sun and have pursued developing fusion on Earth for decades. Such a breakthrough could one day help curb climate change if companies can scale up the technology to a commercial level in the coming decades.

    (Reporting by Lavanya Ahire in Bengaluru and Doina Chiacu in Washington; additional reporting by Yana Gaur; Editing by Leslie Adler and Diane Craft)

    Could end up being a fantastic breakthrough. Maybe an answer to the world's fuel crisis. --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Could end up being a fantastic breakthrough. Maybe an answer to the world's fuel crisis. --Tyr
    The greenies will try and scuttle it if they can't have the proceeds. All energy that doesn't line their pockets is bad.
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    There are some claims out of South Korea over the last couple of weeks that room temperature and single atmosphere superconductivity has been achieved as well, but that has yet to be checked and there is a lot of skepticism. Pretty exciting stuff if it all works out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Could end up being a fantastic breakthrough. Maybe an answer to the world's fuel crisis. --Tyr

    there is no fuel crisis.

    it's a made up lie to justify a scarcity/mass murder mentality in humanity at large.

    this is the evil of the enviro-liars, they're part of the nazi eugenics coalition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    there is no fuel crisis.

    it's a made up lie to justify a scarcity/mass murder mentality in humanity at large.

    this is the evil of the enviro-liars, they're part of the nazi eugenics coalition.
    The greenies are screaming too soon, maybe. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Could end up being a fantastic breakthrough. Maybe an answer to the world's fuel crisis. --Tyr
    Big oil/coal/gas would want it killed or radically slowed or control over it and the meters.
    Watch reports start coming out from trusted sources saying that it's "too expensive" or "dangerous" in some way "not feasible" etc etc... OR
    COMPLETE SILENCE.
    People have been killed to keep or steal ham sandwiches, the energy corps won't close up shop without a real overt & covert struggle.

    Personally i believe there are already several valid energy alternatives ...less exotic than fusion... that simply have not been allowed on the market. including plain old salt water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Big oil/coal/gas would want it killed or radically slowed or control over it and the meters.
    Watch reports start coming out from trusted sources saying that it's "too expensive" or "dangerous" in some way "not feasible" etc etc... OR
    COMPLETE SILENCE.
    People have been killed to keep or steal ham sandwiches, the energy corps won't close up shop without a real overt & covert struggle.

    Personally i believe there are already several valid energy alternatives ...less exotic than fusion... that simply have not been allowed on the market. including plain old salt water.
    I agree. Hydrogen being another simpler alternative.


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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Big oil/coal/gas would want it killed or radically slowed or control over it and the meters.
    Watch reports start coming out from trusted sources saying that it's "too expensive" or "dangerous" in some way "not feasible" etc etc... OR
    COMPLETE SILENCE.
    People have been killed to keep or steal ham sandwiches, the energy corps won't close up shop without a real overt & covert struggle.

    Personally i believe there are already several valid energy alternatives ...less exotic than fusion... that simply have not been allowed on the market. including plain old salt water.
    I say the same, only the greenies are far more dangerous than whoever "big oil" is. Whatever energy source(s), it will be monopolized by whoever, and controlled by government. The green industry is selling fairy dust. At least fossil fuels are established as working with some efficiency.

    Geothermal is another alternative that at east on paper appears efficient, less costly, and cleaner than other choices. It too has the issue of start-up cost and the time it takes to drill and set up production. Nobody wants to wait for anything even if it pays off long-term. Current energy producers cannot sell such long term ventures to investors.

    I know little to nothing about nuclear energy besides the obvious dangers it presents when weaponized.
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    If fusion wokrs it will be funded and rolled out.

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    I know little to nothing about nuclear energy besides the obvious dangers it presents when weaponized.
    Unit 3 at Vogle near August GA just started producing power. Unit 4 should be coming online soon. It's a crying shame that we haven't built a new reactor in 40 years in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    If fusion wokrs it will be funded and rolled out.



    Unit 3 at Vogle near August GA just started producing power. Unit 4 should be coming online soon. It's a crying shame that we haven't built a new reactor in 40 years in this country.
    Goes back to vilification. The smear campaigns and fearmongering against nuclear power was over the top and not just by current industry. To the point that its effects still prejudice people's thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    If fusion wokrs it will be funded and rolled out.



    Unit 3 at Vogle near August GA just started producing power. Unit 4 should be coming online soon. It's a crying shame that we haven't built a new reactor in 40 years in this country.

    these facts point to the truth.

    the ptb (powers that be) don't want enough energy.

    they'd rather orchestrate an ELE (extinction level event) about the issue.

    i'm here to administer your back door red pills for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    these facts point to the truth.

    the ptb (powers that be) don't want enough energy.

    they'd rather orchestrate an ELE (extinction level event) about the issue.

    i'm here to administer your back door red pills for you.
    Facts and you are not too well acquainted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Facts and you are not too well acquainted.

    is the earth overpopulated with people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    is the earth overpopulated with people?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No.
    Go ask China that question or even India... as both are greatly, too far over populated . A FACT.--Tyr
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