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    Default More lying by scientists, global warming crap


    The Cool Down
    Scientists are sounding the alarm about a dangerous problem that will soon affect 2 billion people — here’s what to know


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    As the world has gotten hotter, more people are exposed to dangerously high temperatures each year. Recent findings published in Nature Sustainability show that without policy changes, the world will heat up enough by the end of the century that more than 2 billion people will live in life-threatening hot climates, as Science Hub reported.

    What’s happening?
    So far, the world’s average temperature has risen by just under 1.2 degrees Celsius (about 2 degrees Fahrenheit) above preindustrial level due to human activity, according to Science Hub. The Paris Agreement — an international treaty to limit heat-trapping gases produced by each country and stop the world from getting hotter — proposed to cap the increase at 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit.

    However, the new study found that with the current laws, population growth, and environmental conditions, the world will likely reach about 4.8 degrees Fahrenheit above the preindustrial benchmark, per Science Hub.

    The researchers then looked at which areas would be most affected if the temperature increased to that level. They defined “unprecedented heat” zones as areas where the average temperature throughout the year, counting all seasons, is 84.2 degrees Fahrenheit or higher.

    Science Hub reported that 40 years ago, only 12 million people worldwide lived in regions with temperatures surpassing that heat. Today, thanks to the warming we’ve already experienced, about 60 million people are affected.

    The study found that by 2100, 2 billion out of the world’s projected population of 9.5 billion will live in areas with an average temperature higher than 84.2 degrees Fahrenheit. The most affected areas will be countries around the equator, noted Science Hub: India, Nigeria, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Pakistan.

    Why is this heating worrisome?
    The hotter the world gets, the more heat waves, droughts, and wildfires we experience. As Science Hub reported, studies have also linked the rising heat to everything from more contagious diseases to lower labor efficiency and more conflict between people.​

    “That’s a profound reshaping of the habitability of the surface of the planet, and could lead potentially to the large-scale reorganization of where people live,” study author Tim Lenton, director of the Global Systems Institute at the University of Exeter, told ScienceAlert.

    What’s being done?
    Science Hub reported that if the global community reaches the goal set by the Paris Agreement, the affected population would be limited to half a billion people instead of 2 billion.

    In the meantime, individuals can protect themselves from heat waves with these tips for cooling off.

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    More climate change, global warming scare tactics...
    These a-holes lie like a rug, imho. Most warm changes are changes taking place on that bright ball in the sky.. -Tyr
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    we all need to stop listening to these retarded nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    we all need to stop listening to these retarded nazis.
    Willful ignorance will set you free
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Willful ignorance will set you free

    you know best!

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    "I Left Out the Full Truth to Get My Climate Change Paper Published"
    I just got published in Nature because I stuck to a narrative I knew the editors would like. That’s not the way science should work.

    By Patrick T Brown

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    https://www.thefp.com/p/i-overhyped-...-get-published


    "Trust the science!!"? no

    "Trust, but verify"
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "I Left Out the Full Truth to Get My Climate Change Paper Published"
    I just got published in Nature because I stuck to a narrative I knew the editors would like. That’s not the way science should work.

    By Patrick T Brown

    September 5, 2023

    https://www.thefp.com/p/i-overhyped-...-get-published


    "Trust the science!!"? no

    "Trust, but verify"
    I saw this a couple days ago too. Nearly had me sign up for frp, which I've not had since college. LOL!


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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "I Left Out the Full Truth to Get My Climate Change Paper Published"
    I just got published in Nature because I stuck to a narrative I knew the editors would like. That’s not the way science should work.

    By Patrick T Brown

    September 5, 2023

    https://www.thefp.com/p/i-overhyped-...-get-published


    "Trust the science!!"? no

    "Trust, but verify"
    This is the biggest problem with climate change, IMO. Fanatics on one side claiming all kinds of alarmist crap while the other side has decided it's not happening just to be in opposition to the fanatics. The nutcases have pushed it so far that whether or not you accept climate change depends to each side whether or not one is "crazy".

    Add to that scientists in name only piling on just to ensure they get attention and the scientific facts are lost. The very first thing one has to do is verify who they are listening to. If it's AOC, you get what you pay for.

    The greenhouse effect is real science and it is not a lie that the industrial age has multiplied its effect by the release of CO2 into the atmosphere. The Earth can no longer keep up with Man's C02 output. And any of you that think I learned this listening to quacks about the Earth you would be wrong. Greenhouse gasses are the reason Venus is uninhabitable. The temperatures on Venus exceed the temperatures on Mercury because of its atmosphere made up mostly of nitrogen, sulfur dioxide and carbon dioxide.

    Just another issue completely clouded by idiots and opportunists. These green idiots and their solutions come right out of a can of Planters. All they are really after is power and money. Same with scientists who "say the right thing" to maintain government funding. Not to mention the hypocrisy of "buying carbon credits" to prove one's sincere, superior effort. Cuz that fixes things

    The good news is besides some discomfort and weird weather, most of us will be dead before the Earth is uninhabitable. We currently stand a better chance of getting nuked or hit by a bus. Doesn't mean it's not an issue that sooner or later will be addressed one way or the other, nor does it mean that because idiots are driving the train we need to pretend it's not coming down the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    This is the biggest problem with climate change, IMO. Fanatics on one side claiming all kinds of alarmist crap while the other side has decided it's not happening just to be in opposition to the fanatics. The nutcases have pushed it so far that whether or not you accept climate change depends to each side whether or not one is "crazy".

    Add to that scientists in name only piling on just to ensure they get attention and the scientific facts are lost. The very first thing one has to do is verify who they are listening to. If it's AOC, you get what you pay for.

    The greenhouse effect is real science and it is not a lie that the industrial age has multiplied its effect by the release of CO2 into the atmosphere. The Earth can no longer keep up with Man's C02 output. And any of you that think I learned this listening to quacks about the Earth you would be wrong. Greenhouse gasses are the reason Venus is uninhabitable. The temperatures on Venus exceed the temperatures on Mercury because of its atmosphere made up mostly of nitrogen, sulfur dioxide and carbon dioxide.

    Just another issue completely clouded by idiots and opportunists. These green idiots and their solutions come right out of a can of Planters. All they are really after is power and money. Same with scientists who "say the right thing" to maintain government funding. Not to mention the hypocrisy of "buying carbon credits" to prove one's sincere, superior effort. Cuz that fixes things

    The good news is besides some discomfort and weird weather, most of us will be dead before the Earth is uninhabitable. We currently stand a better chance of getting nuked or hit by a bus. Doesn't mean it's not an issue that sooner or later will be addressed one way or the other, nor does it mean that because idiots are driving the train we need to pretend it's not coming down the track.
    I feel that all the government nonsense is just that. If they were serious, it would have stayed at the incentives and advising stages. Now it's trying to control our appliances, what is made, what is allowed to be used, etc.

    It's a farce when they are forcing all EV while the infrastructure grid could go down any minute, without their help. The batteries used are not only destroying roads and bridges, (already in bad shape), but there's still no plan on what to do with the depleted batteries, which are extremely toxic to the environment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I feel that all the government nonsense is just that. If they were serious, it would have stayed at the incentives and advising stages. Now it's trying to control our appliances, what is made, what is allowed to be used, etc.

    It's a farce when they are forcing all EV while the infrastructure grid could go down any minute, without their help. The batteries used are not only destroying roads and bridges, (already in bad shape), but there's still no plan on what to do with the depleted batteries, which are extremely toxic to the environment.
    I completely agree. Government is all about control, now. It's not about us nor climate. The fossil fuel industry has too much power for the government to control it so they're attempting to destroy the need for the industry while keeping a firm grip on whatever power, control and/or money the green industry pulls in. Just a realignment of power and control is all.
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    Default For as long as most of us have been alive...Nothing has actually changed.

    BUT...We all know. There is BIG Money to be made by scaring the perpetually ignorant, and gullible among us.
    Anyone who honestly believes...HUMAN BEINGS with BIG MONEY are responsible for Global warming or
    Climate Change. Probably believes AL GORE invented the Internet, and We have more than 50 Genders of humans.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    Think what we want; warming... not warming... It's at least clear that those who think it's warming aren't really taking hard choices action to put a cap on CO2 emissions like getting on the bandwagon with nuclear power, jacking up gas taxes to minimize driving, capping highway funding, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Think what we want; warming... not warming... It's at least clear that those who think it's warming aren't really taking hard choices action to put a cap on CO2 emissions like getting on the bandwagon with nuclear power, jacking up gas taxes to minimize driving, capping highway funding, etc.
    True. That's the part that makes the politicization of it a farce. One only has to look at how they handled covid. They used it to divide and deflect rather than look at any real science or solutions.

    They just purchase their carbon credits, point fingers, and keep on keeping on.

    You know as well as I that this pansy ass society couldn't stand any real, hard solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    True. That's the part that makes the politicization of it a farce. One only has to look at how they handled covid. They used it to divide and deflect rather than look at any real science or solutions.

    They just purchase their carbon credits, point fingers, and keep on keeping on.

    You know as well as I that this pansy ass society couldn't stand any real, hard solutions.
    If it were 'real' then I'm not sure I'd agree. Hard to tell with all the nonsense that has become the norm in past 20+ years, but I'm still willing to be that if it was shown to be real, hard solutions were real solutions, I'd not put it beyond the people to respond favorably.

    I, for one, though am not convinced that it's 'real.'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    If it were 'real' then I'm not sure I'd agree. Hard to tell with all the nonsense that has become the norm in past 20+ years, but I'm still willing to be that if it was shown to be real, hard solutions were real solutions, I'd not put it beyond the people to respond favorably.

    I, for one, though am not convinced that it's 'real.'
    What's being sold is not real, IMO. As far as what will actually happen and when, who knows?

    I'm definitely not a science genius but I do know 1+1=2. Rather than focus on greenhouse effect on Earth, I looked at it as hypothesized regarding other planets and its affect on them. Not on purpose either You can only run so many patterns in front of me before I start analyzing them. The basic math to it as I understand it is the Earth is coming out of its latest ice age. We have since the industrial age began accelerated it with C02 emissions. Prior to the industrial age, nature could handle the output but cannot handle the accelerated output.

    Regardless the man-made part, the last time the Earth came out of an ice age it pretty much wiped out all life. Too hot. Man could not in fact have survived the climate prior to current ice age thawing.

    It's academic to me. Unless I live to be as old as Methuselah, odds are good I won't be around Even the OP in this thread uses 2100? I'd be 140. Probably stuck in some home praying for an asteroid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    What's being sold is not real, IMO. As far as what will actually happen and when, who knows?

    I'm definitely not a science genius but I do know 1+1=2. Rather than focus on greenhouse effect on Earth, I looked at it as hypothesized regarding other planets and its affect on them. Not on purpose either You can only run so many patterns in front of me before I start analyzing them. The basic math to it as I understand it is the Earth is coming out of its latest ice age. We have since the industrial age began accelerated it with C02 emissions. Prior to the industrial age, nature could handle the output but cannot handle the accelerated output.

    Regardless the man-made part, the last time the Earth came out of an ice age it pretty much wiped out all life. Too hot. Man could not in fact have survived the climate prior to current ice age thawing.

    It's academic to me. Unless I live to be as old as Methuselah, odds are good I won't be around Even the OP in this thread uses 2100? I'd be 140. Probably stuck in some home praying for an asteroid
    Yep, I'm of the mindset there is nothing to see here other than weather. Rising temps? They keep fudging and changing how they measure, even within a few years. Seems this year, many records were 'broken' because the temperatures were taken of concrete, rather than general air. If they always measure the same way, (cough-scientific method), the readings would be comparable. Instead it's apples and oranges and called jerky. No rhyme nor reason.

    When the rich politicos change their behaviors regarding jet planes and such, perhaps more will listen-even if they are still lying.


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