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    https://www.newsweek.com/covid-boost...e-know-1826701

    will be available by week's end are receiving some scrutiny due to clinical trials being performed on mice and not humans.

    The boosters made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna were approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on Monday. On Tuesday, a panel of advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) voted 13-1 in favor of its broad use for individuals 6 months and older due to fears of increased respiratory illnesses nationwide this fall and winter.

    The new vaccines will be available at national pharmacies including CVS and Walgreens, and at local pharmacies, doctors' offices and public health departments based on location.

    These updated boosters will be the first released to the public without any humans involved in the clinical trials, raising questions from some about the efficacy.
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    •sarcasm alert•

    Look, we should not be afraid of the gov't or big companies Sassy.
    We've trusted them on other things all our lives and we're still alive because of it.
    Letting them do what they want to us & for us for decades.
    This should be no different.

    And you should not believe everything you read on the "internet" or "do your own research".
    You are not a dr, are you?

    But we love you Sassy, so you can continue to post your extremist propaganda. But please stop telling people what to do!! You're exactly the same as the Gov't & MSM! No different.
    back off, why don't cha.
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    Semms to me something is up with this new crap. They may be setting up something for election time using the lying crap about covid...
    There in no underhanded rotten thing that these filthy swine will not use on the gullible American public, imho..TYR
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    •sarcasm alert•

    Look, we should not be afraid of the gov't or big companies Sassy.
    We've trusted them on other things all our lives and we're still alive because of it.
    Letting them do what they want to us & for us for decades.
    This should be no different.

    And you should not believe everything you read on the "internet" or "do your own research".
    You are not a dr, are you?

    But we love you Sassy, so you can continue to post your extremist propaganda. But please stop telling people what to do!! You're exactly the same as the Gov't & MSM! No different.
    back off, why don't cha.
    are you trying to become a mod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    •sarcasm alert•

    Look, we should not be afraid of the gov't or big companies Sassy.
    We've trusted them on other things all our lives and we're still alive because of it.
    Letting them do what they want to us & for us for decades.
    This should be no different.

    And you should not believe everything you read on the "internet" or "do your own research".
    You are not a dr, are you?

    But we love you Sassy, so you can continue to post your extremist propaganda. But please stop telling people what to do!! You're exactly the same as the Gov't & MSM! No different.
    back off, why don't cha.
    In general, I don't have a problem with the release. I do have a problem if the rules are being broken regarding protocols of testing-which I believe were suspended for original vaccine for expediency. Considering the now known issues with original vaccine and of even more import the also known weakening of the virus-totally in line with virus potency over time there is not the 'emergency' reasoning for the possible number of fatalities.

    Putting aside the regular protocols, again in response to the 'knowns' there should be no mandated vaccines regarding covid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    In general, I don't have a problem with the release. I do have a problem if the rules are being broken regarding protocols of testing-which I believe were suspended for original vaccine for expediency. Considering the now known issues with original vaccine and of even more import the also known weakening of the virus-totally in line with virus potency over time there is not the 'emergency' reasoning for the possible number of fatalities.

    Putting aside the regular protocols, again in response to the 'knowns' there should be no mandated vaccines regarding covid.
    So you don't have a problem with no human trials for a new drug? Even one recommended for 6 month olds.
    the CDC isn't mandating but recommending an untested drug.
    Last edited by revelarts; 09-20-2023 at 10:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    So you don't have a problem with no human trials for a new drug? Even one recommended for 6 month olds.
    the CDC isn't mandating but recommending an untested drug.
    I said I did have a problem with them abandoning their own protocols.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I said I did have a problem with them abandoning their own protocols.
    Ok I guess what confuses me is how you can say,
    "In general, I don't have a problem with the release.
    But
    "have a problem with them abandoning their own protocols"
    I don't understand how those 2 work together.
    If the protocols have been abandoned then they should not be releasing it, right?
    Last edited by revelarts; 09-20-2023 at 01:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Ok I guess what confuses me is how you can say,
    "In general, I don't have a problem with the release.
    But
    "have a problem with them abandoning their own protocols"
    I don't understand how those 2 work together.
    If the protocols have been abandoned then they should not be releasing it, right?
    Had to read a bit further for why first abandoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Had to read a bit further for why first abandoned.

    I get emergency bills post 9/11. Don't get them years later

    so the cdc should recommend untested drugs?

    I didn't understand your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    so the cdc should recommend untested drugs?

    I didn't understand your answer.
    Then try again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Then try again.

    ok.

    should the cdc be recommending untested drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    ok.

    should the cdc be recommending untested drugs?
    Read my response. I do not want to call names.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Read my response. I do not want to call names.

    it seems like you wish they had followed protocol, but are fine with the recommendation anyway.

    correct me if this is not your position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    it seems like you wish they had followed protocol, but are fine with the recommendation anyway.

    correct me if this is not your position.
    Not my position.


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