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    Default "Truth is Always the 1st casualty of war."

    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    The Jessica Lynch Myth
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    7 FAKE NEWS stories coming out of Ukraine
    1. “THE GHOST OF KIEV”
    Early Friday morning it was reported that a single Ukrainian plane, a MiG-29, was patrolling the skies above Kiev. The English speaking press called the unnamed pilot “The Ghost of Kiev”, and claimed he had downed 6 Russian jets in air-to-air combat in less than 2 days, making him an official Fighter Ace, and probably one of the fastest to ever earn that title...
    ...The trouble is there is almost no evidence this happened at all. To quote Newsweek:
    'There is zero evidence the “Ghost of Kyiv” exists”.'


    2. “RUSSIAN PLANES FLYING OVER KIEV”
    A lot of people have been sharing a short video of Russian planes allegedly flying low over the city of Kiev. The Times used it a still from it in their story “Will sanctions stop a Russian shell?”:
    ...The problem with that is it’s not Kiev, it’s Moscow. And it’s not today, it’s two years ago. It’s footage of what is likely a rehearsal for the 2020 Victory Day Parade flyover....

    3. “ZELENSKIY VISITING THE TROOPS”
    ....
    4. “LUHANSK POWER STATION EXPLOSION”
    ....
    5. VIDEO GAMES. AGAIN.
    ....
    6. “RUSSIAN WARSHIP GO **** YOURSELF”
    ....
    7. SYRIAN DRONE STRIKES FOOTAGE
    ....
    See link for details
    https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/27/...ut-of-ukraine/
    "There’s tons of other fakes out there, not to mention fakes of fakes designed to discredit doubters or just spread chaos.
    Ultimately, it’s all a timely reminder that propaganda is at its most potent at times where the news is moving fast and people are feeling emotional.
    That is WHY the media whips up fear, anxiety and hatred, because people in that emotional state are less likely to think critically.
    It should go without saying that this is equally true for both sides. We shouldn’t blindly accept claims from the Russian side, simply because we know NATO lies. Both sides propagandize, and one-eyed skepticism is only a different kind of bias.
    In short, if you see something designed to provoke an emotional reaction, don’t let it. Never get swept along in the narrative, always hold yourself back, keep calm and ask rational questions."
    Last edited by revelarts; 10-23-2023 at 10:58 AM.
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    Leaked OPCW report suggests Syria gas attack was ‘staged,’ MIT scientist says


    https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/25/o...eodore-postol/
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    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    Feel better?

    Same old junk. Half-truths, distortions or reality and/or flat out lies. What is it again the first casualty is?
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Feel better?
    mmm, yes, i do.
    thanks for asking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Same old junk. Half-truths, distortions or reality and/or flat out lies. What is it again the first casualty is?
    "My own luck has been curious all my literary life; I never could tell a lie that anyone would doubt, nor a truth that anybody would believe."
    Mark Twain
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    Scott Ritter talks about how he knows the news media works for/with the intel, CIA & Pentagon.
    Among other things his work on project "Mass Appeal" to get people on board with War with Saddam before the war. And his meeting with CNN leaders pre-war where they already had plans for "embedded" reporters and the like.

    clip
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_vide...la8.mp4?tag=14


    full interview
    https://rumble.com/v3urnry-wartime-l...tt-ritter.html
    Last edited by revelarts; 11-10-2023 at 12:01 PM.
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    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    Plenty of Real Atrocities by Hamas but still this...

    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    "According to the accompanying story, “The Tora Bora fortress where Osama bin Laden is believed to be hiding is a self-contained complex with its own electrical heating system, huge stocks of ammunition and accommodation for more than 1,000.”

    The story was very influential, but completely untrue. Many variations on the “Tora Bora bunker” appeared in the international media, but there was no such fortress. Instead, troops who finally reached the supposed “fortress” found only shallow, scattered natural caves that had housed perhaps 200 fighters. There was no trace of the hardened “Nato-standard” bunkers with hydroelectric power and stocks of Stinger missiles..."
    https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...sons-fake-news



    FYI, I'm not saying the tunnels in Israel are "fake".
    but that "gov'ts lie!"
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    Ever consider being a good guy on the side of right and justice instead of constantly spewing enemy propaganda?
    Last edited by Gunny; 11-21-2023 at 04:50 PM.
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    I alway thought that telling the truth was what the good guys do.
    Seems our side has been lying to us to promote a lot of wars.
    Is that what good guys do?
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    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I alway thought that telling the truth was what the good guys do.
    Seems our side has been lying to us to promote a lot of wars.
    Is that what good guys do?
    The Deep State players around the world manipulate governments to wage war. Not just our government. However, not everything is a lie Rev.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


    George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.

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