CIA built labs in Ukraine

[Gunny]

The Pentagon didn’t ‘admit’ there are 46 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine (statesman.com)

[revelarts]

The Pentagon didn’t ‘admit’ there are 46 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine (statesman.com)

I see, Ok.
so there it is... it's not U.S. "run". and it's not "bio-weapons" it's just prevention.

Kinda like how the U.S. and Chinese officials have explained to us that Wuhan lab and North Carolina University Labs are not & were not "bio-weapons" labs.
very reassuring.

AND Faucci has explained to congress and the world that the U.S. Gov't never funded "gain of function" research in Wuhan or elsewhere.
And all the research funded was just about prevention there too.

Case closed. So it should never be questioned.
And Anything else is just crazy talk.

Pentagon works on preventative measures labs examining agricultural infectious diseases in foreign countries all the time... no big deal.

The government fact sheet said:
"...The collaborative programs have focused on improving public health and agricultural safety measures at the nexus of nonproliferation...."

I guess, my only problem with this quote that helps explain it all away is that Ive rarely... never... seen the use of the word "nonproliferation" outside of the context of weapons. Nuke, bio & chemical weapons.

[Gunny]

I see, Ok.
so there it is... it's not U.S. "run". and it's not "bio-weapons" it's just prevention.

Kinda like how the U.S. and Chinese officials have explained to us that Wuhan lab and North Carolina University Labs are not & were not "bio-weapons" labs.
very reassuring.

AND Faucci has explained to congress and the world that the U.S. Gov't never funded "gain of function" research in Wuhan or elsewhere.
And all the research funded was just about prevention there too.

Case closed. So it should never be questioned.
And Anything else is just crazy talk.

Pentagon works on preventative measures labs examining agricultural infectious diseases in foreign countries all the time... no big deal.

The government fact sheet said:
"...The collaborative programs have focused on improving public health and agricultural safety measures at the nexus of nonproliferation...."

I guess, my only problem with this quote that helps explain it all away is that Ive rarely... never... seen the use of the word "nonproliferation" outside of the context of weapons. Nuke, bio & chemical weapons.

Not the same by any means, and predates China/COVID/Wuhan and Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. Don't have any idea what the original intent of the labs was under the USSR, but I can hazard a guess that wouldn't be far off. It was and is in everyone's best interest that they are in the hands of people who know what they are dealing with. In case you missed it, Ukraine wasn't exactly up to date when Russia invaded.

But since you dragged them into it ... China/COVID/Wuhan Lab are THE very justification for biological research because some of these bad actors are more than willing to use bio weapons.

Since you love your idealism, here's some for you ... was it up to me there wouldn't be a single nuclear, biological and/or chemical weapon on the planet. See how idealism stacks up against reality?

[revelarts]

Not the same by any means, and predates China/COVID/Wuhan and Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. Don't have any idea what the original intent of the labs was under the USSR, but I can hazard a guess that wouldn't be far off. It was and is in everyone's best interest that they are in the hands of people who know what they are dealing with. In case you missed it, Ukraine wasn't exactly up to date when Russia invaded.

But since you dragged them into it ... China/COVID/Wuhan Lab are THE very justification for biological research because some of these bad actors are more than willing to use bio weapons.

Since you love your idealism, here's some for you ... was it up to me there wouldn't be a single nuclear, biological and/or chemical weapon on the planet. See how idealism stacks up against reality?

I'm not the one being idealistic about the motives and the actions of the Pentagon & CIA in bio-lab projects in a corrupt non-nato nation next to Russia Gunny.

[SassyLady]

I believe if you look, one of the links I provided attest to the existence of the labs and why the US and other country and World organizations are involved in them. That would be evidence. Unlike someone taking a story, giving it a false narrative and running with it.

What's the false narrative?

[Gunny]

What's the false narrative?

That the Batman is a bad guy because he kills bad guys

[revelarts]

That the Batman is a bad guy because he kills bad guys

um, 1st Batman doesn't kill. it's a rule he and most heroes follow. At least they use too.


BTW even in the comic-books there are few purely "good guys". And NO nations portrayed as always "the good guys".
That's kind of story is too idealistic , even for the comics.

[Gunny]

um, 1st Batman doesn't kill. it's a rule he and most heroes follow. At least they use too.


BTW even in the comic-books there are few purely "good guys". And NO nations portrayed as always "the good guys".
That's kind of story is too idealistic , even for the comics.

Batman killed bad guys. Then he didn't. Now he does again. That was the beef between Batman and Superman. Superman took issue with Batman killing bad guys and Batman took issue with Superman considering himself morally superior for not doing so.

Superman v Batman was a sideshow in current movies not in the original series of comics Superman v Doomsday; which, I still have. Packed away somewhere

Superman was at least since the 50s singularly virtuous to a fault.

[SassyLady]

That the Batman is a bad guy because he kills bad guys

If Batman kills innocents because he's just prepping in case the bad guys come then he's not a good guy at all.

[Gunny]

If Batman kills innocents because he's just prepping in case the bad guys come then he's not a good guy at all.

Didn't say a thing about Batman killing innocents.

There is no such thing as "innocents" not getting killed. Pipe dream of the left and propaganda tool for those with their own agendas.

If Superman destroys Doomsday while noncombatants are injured or killed and property damaged, was it worth it? Seeing as Doomsday was a threat to the existence of Man. I'm sure since he was in Metropolis/Gotham though, a bunch of Russians who could neither see nor feel the threat sat back whining about the effect it had on the climate

Oh, and of course, Doomsday was working for the CIA.

[revelarts]

Didn't say a thing about Batman killing innocents.

There is no such thing as "innocents" not getting killed. Pipe dream of the left and propaganda tool for those with their own agendas.

If Superman destroys Doomsday while noncombatants are injured or killed and property damaged, was it worth it? Seeing as Doomsday was a threat to the existence of Man. I'm sure since he was in Metropolis/Gotham though, a bunch of Russians who could neither see nor feel the threat sat back whining about the effect it had on the climate

Oh, and of course, Doomsday was working for the CIA.

If Superman and batman destroy the city fighting the Penguin & noncombatants are injured or killed and property damaged, was it worth it?
Not ever villain is Doomsday.

[SassyLady]

I'm thinking batman superman and doomsday all wanted to kill each other and didn't care who died in the process.

[Gunny]

If Superman and batman destroy the city fighting the Penguin & noncombatants are injured or killed and property damaged, was it worth it?
Not ever villain is Doomsday.

Not every villain is not.

[Gunny]

I'm thinking batman superman and doomsday all wanted to kill each other and didn't care who died in the process.

Incorrect. Superman is from the offset noble. He fought for something he felt was more important than just himself. The survival of the human race he swore to protect.

Given he could have just flown off to another planet and forgot the whole thing, he made the ultimate sacrifice. Easy to see he is not of THIS current society

He instead could have turned a blind eye and said it wasn't his business. Metaphoric irony.