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    Default Wow! CBS Has investigative Reporters?

    This makes one wonder why they don't use them more often:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/havana-...es-transcript/


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    The sad thing is that this is old news.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    The sad thing is that this is old news.
    The syndrome, yes. For a couple years though, govt has Been denying of obscufating the facts, as CBS points out.

    This is really the MSM for once saying the govt has purposefully lied and covered up a foreign attack on US soil.

    First time in many years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    The syndrome, yes. For a couple years though, govt has Been denying of obscufating the facts, as CBS points out.

    This is really the MSM for once saying the govt has purposefully lied and covered up a foreign attack on US soil.

    First time in many years.
    The government doesn't like to pay. They finally in the past year or so decided to pay up for those affected by contaminated drinking water at Camp Lejeune. They begrudgingly cracked open the coin purse in an extremely limited fashion for Gulf War Syndrome.

    They don't have a problem with there being a problem per se. Just don't hold them accountable. Your tax dollars are spent on more important things like DEI and trying to strongarm people into EVs the grid it has yet to address (again, costs the government) can't support.

    When it comes to Federal government employees, we don't figure out until it's too late they're going to drag their feet hoping you'll die and the problem goes away.

    Not sure what is up with CBS pointing fingers and naming names. Wait for the retraction and apology?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    The syndrome, yes. For a couple years though, govt has Been denying of obscufating the facts, as CBS points out.

    This is really the MSM for once saying the govt has purposefully lied and covered up a foreign attack on US soil.

    First time in many years.
    Many sources other than CBS have already said this. CBS is limping into the race for getting the truth to the public.

    Not many people rely on MSM any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Many sources other than CBS have already said this. CBS is limping into the race for getting the truth to the public.

    Not many people rely on MSM any more.
    I look forward to the links. They too have all the foia info, that's what is different from the others I've seen. They actually have the documents and facts I've not seen before.

    Like Gunny said, gov't hates paying out for it's own mistakes, where this goes a step further from original Cuba embassy type reports to attacks on US streets. The links to Russia are important too, and again something beyond the speculation I've seen previously.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Many sources other than CBS have already said this. CBS is limping into the race for getting the truth to the public.

    Not many people rely on MSM any more.
    Not a CBS fan. However, first sentence states "5 year investigation". While I am sure not by design given the nature of the beast, not jumping to foregone conclusion from the get-go is rather refreshing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I look forward to the links. They too have all the foia info, that's what is different from the others I've seen. They actually have the documents and facts I've not seen before.

    Like Gunny said, gov't hates paying out for it's own mistakes, where this goes a step further from original Cuba embassy type reports to attacks on US streets. The links to Russia are important too, and again something beyond the speculation I've seen previously.
    The link to Russia is new to me and what caught my eye. Not surprising. Planes crash, people get poisoned ... right out of a Alistaire MacClean Cold War novel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    The link to Russia is new to me and what caught my eye. Not surprising. Planes crash, people get poisoned ... right out of a Alistaire MacClean Cold War novel
    Yep, some facts as opposed to mere speculation. There are those though that speculation is a new form of higher thinking. That is just hubris of course.


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    Facts have been suppressed because they aren't put forth by MSM....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Many sources other than CBS have already said this. CBS is limping into the race for getting the truth to the public.

    Not many people rely on MSM any more.
    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Facts have been suppressed because they aren't put forth by MSM....
    I suppose you can understand the assumption that you seemed to be saying there was nothing new here, just an MSM outlet plagiarism from better sources. In act, whether by better skills or resources, CBS along with others investigated over years and brought up facts that had not been previously known though suspected.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I suppose you can understand the assumption that you seemed to be saying there was nothing new here, just an MSM outlet plagiarism from better sources. In act, whether by better skills or resources, CBS along with others investigated over years and brought up facts that had not been previously known though suspected.
    What I'm saying is just because CBS finally reported on it doesn't mean it wasn't true when the first "conspiracy theories" came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    What I'm saying is just because CBS finally reported on it doesn't mean it wasn't true when the first "conspiracy theories" came out.
    Great, then link up the same facts that CBS has documented, along with the named sources. That's apples and apples.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    What I'm saying is just because CBS finally reported on it doesn't mean it wasn't true when the first "conspiracy theories" came out.
    Does that work for any accusation? I'll wait for the investigation, thanks. Notable with conspiracy theorists is that an accusation from them is gospel and good enough to convict; yet, no amount of facts, evidence, logic and/or common sense is ever enough to prove them wrong.

    What it means is the conspiracy theories, if there were any, coincidentally got one right. Clock's right twice a day.
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