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    Maybe the euro nations should take it over all together? leave the U.S. & it's contractors out of it completely.
    Europeans defending Europe from the bad ol Russians "invasion". that's going to happen any minute now... right after Saddam .. i mean Iran's Ahmadinejad attacks the whole middle east to start the Kalifah!
    the end of the world as we know it... again... if they don't DO something.
    Last edited by revelarts; 04-02-2024 at 05:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Maybe the euro nations should take it over all together? leave the U.S. & it's contractors out of it completely.
    Europeans defending Europe from the bad ol Russians "invasion". that's going to happen any minute now... right after Saddam .. i mean Iran's Ahmadinejad attacks the whole middle east to start the Kalifah!
    the end of the world as we know it... again... if they don't DO something.
    How'd that work out for us in WWs I & II?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    How'd that work out for us in WWs I & II?
    Well, I heard that various American Banks & corporation funded and aided Hitler.
    Henry Ford got an Award from Hitler.
    IBM created & sold the NAZIs the punch card computers that tracked, organized & numbered the Jews in Germany. And others.
    As Hitler grew his war machine.


    Also I could be wrong but i was taught that WWI had something to do with all the alliances that folks were committed too that drew them into war.
    As in, too many people in other people business, helping others in war.
    And the evil Huns weren't putting babies on bayonets.


    Also what about U.S having bio-weapon labs in the Ukraine right next to Russia?
    Haven't we "helped" with weapons in Ukraine enough?
    JFK didn't allow Russia to have nukes in Cuba. But Russia's wrong for not wanting U.S. bio-weapons next door. Not sure how that works.
    (Well i do know. Russia is the BAD guy gonna take over the world any minute FOR SURE. we are the GOOD guys.)


    BTW I heard that so far we've already given Ukraine more money than Russia spent on it's military budget last year.
    maybe we've done enough?!
    Last edited by revelarts; 04-03-2024 at 02:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Well, I heard that various American Banks & corporation funded and aided Hitler.
    Henry Ford got an Award from Hitler.
    IBM created & sold the NAZIs the punch card computers that tracked, organized & numbered the Jews in Germany. And others.
    As Hitler grew his war machine.


    Also I could be wrong but i was taught that WWI had something to do with all the alliances that folks were committed too that drew them into war.
    As in, too many people in other people business, helping others in war.
    And the evil Huns weren't putting babies on bayonets.


    Also what about U.S having bio-weapon labs in the Ukraine right next to Russia?
    Haven't we "helped" with weapons in Ukraine enough?
    JFK didn't allow Russia to have nukes in Cuba. But Russia's wrong for not wanting U.S. bio-weapons next door. Not sure how that works.
    (Well i do know. Russia is the BAD guy gonna take over the world any minute FOR SURE. we are the GOOD guys.)


    BTW I heard that so far we've already given Ukraine more money than Russia spent on it's military budget last year.
    maybe we've done enough?!
    Historically inaccurate distortions all over the place. All have been dispelled time and again and you're still sticking to your broken record. There is a difference between incapability to comprehend and slapping on blinders to suit a narrative. I suspect you don't suffer the former.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Historically inaccurate distortions all over the place. All have been dispelled time and again and you're still sticking to your broken record. There is a difference between incapability to comprehend and slapping on blinders to suit a narrative. I suspect you don't suffer the former.
    Sure.

    BTW Looks like Blinken says that Ukraine will be joining NATO. "sooner rather than later" If it goes as they plan.
    Under Article 5, this means that an attack on Ukraine will be considered an attack on the United States.

    Got a question for you and Kath.
    Do you want to go to war with Russia?
    Yes?
    No?
    (I'll wait for the dodgy answer, that denies the "real world" fact of suppling cash, arms, training & logistics for a war is being at war)


    I didn't vote for Trump or Biden last time.
    But If Trump means keeping Ukraine out of NATO... as we promised. And NOT going to war with Russia.
    I'm voting Trump.
    He's a horrible person. and I wish Pence could still be there (I believe he was holding the leash somewhat)... but Still.
    It looks like StateDept/CIA/Neo-cons/Neo-libs/imperialist are running the show foreign policy wise.
    And no one's at the wheel domestically. at least noone who's up to any good.
    Last edited by revelarts; 04-04-2024 at 06:05 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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