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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm pretty sure we know. Otherwise it would be in the news. But some people choose to live in the supposed never knowing.
    It could be the ocean army, you never know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    It could be the ocean army, you never know.
    I don't know the ocean army. Should I be wary of the ocean army?
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    Title of the thread reminds me of Dana carvey imitating bush 41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Silly. It's Slay News and the guy is a world renowned virologist from Belgium. Obviously it's going to happen.
    But when the MSM, CDC, FDA, Fuacaii and experts predicted millions would die from covid, folks believed it without question.
    Do we need to list again how much the "experts" got wrong and how they censored and oppressed those who were right.

    Not sure what it will take for some folks to look beyond the "trusted" experts to the evidence & history.

    but hey, all the best to us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    But when the MSM, CDC, FDA, Fuacaii and experts predicted millions would die from covid, folks believed it without question.
    Do we need to list again how much the "experts" got wrong and how they censored and oppressed those who were right.

    Not sure what it will take for some folks to look beyond the "trusted" experts to the evidence & history.

    but hey, all the best to us all.
    Anything from anywhere snytime...


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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't know the ocean army. Should I be wary of the ocean army?
    Be afraid, very sfraid


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    https://fullmeasure.news/newest-videos/covid-clots

    COVID Clots
    by Full Measure Staff

    Sun, April 7th 2024 at 9:30 AM
    For whatever reason, America’s health officials haven’t seemed publicly interested in answering a crucial question: How many illnesses and deaths can be attributed to COVID versus the vaccines or some combination? Today, we look at shocking and graphic evidence that independent researchers are trying to make sense of, in the absence of helpful guidance from the usual authorities: a mysterious fibrous material being discovered in the veins and arteries of the dead. A caution: some of the images in our report are graphic.

    Richard Hirschman is an embalmer who has been investigating disturbing evidence left by the dead: mysterious clots appearing in cadavers around the world.

    Richard Hirschman: Well, the very first photograph I took was in September of 2021.

    Sharyl: What does that first photograph show?

    Hirschman: That first photograph shows a very, very large, white, fibrous-looking clot that was literally about the length of the individual's leg itself. Clots are one of the things we run into sometimes in embalming. We're used to that. But these clots are totally different.

    To his surprise, the strange, long, fibrous clots started turning up in more and more bodies that Hirschman examined — all of them after COVID and the vaccines hit the market.

    Sharyl: What types of people are you getting these clots from?

    Hirschman: Yes, that's a great question, because the majority of the ones that I'm seeing a lot of these clots in are older people, but it doesn't mean it's exclusive to the older people. The first person that I took a picture of was only in their mid-fifties. So it's not necessarily grandma or grandpa. And I've seen them in people as young as 20. So it seems it's worse in the elderly, but it's not exclusive to the elderly.

    Hirschman wasn’t alone in his observations. He began connecting with embalmers and funeral directors in Canada, the UK, and New Zealand, who were reporting the same disturbing phenomenon.

    Sharyl: Can you estimate about how many other embalmers or people in the same line of work you've personally had contact with who've described something similar?

    Hirschman: Everyone that I've had personal contact with are seeing them.

    Sharyl: Why is this so remarkable in your opinion?

    Hirschman: The most remarkable thing that — the blood has changed. That I — obviously, I can see. The most alarming is this white fibrous structure. This material that looks — it's hard to describe. It almost looks like calamari or like spaghetti or, you know, some kind of a — it's not blood. It's not blood. All of the people that I've spoken to — and I know about four of them that have over 50 years of experience — had never seen these things until recently....

    ...
    Sharyl: Why is this so remarkable in your opinion?

    Hirschman: The most remarkable thing that — the blood has changed. That I — obviously, I can see. The most alarming is this white fibrous structure. This material that looks — it's hard to describe. It almost looks like calamari or like spaghetti or, you know, some kind of a — it's not blood. It's not blood. All of the people that I've spoken to — and I know about four of them that have over 50 years of experience — had never seen these things until recently.

    Though some embalmers say they tried reporting to their official professional bodies, they say nobody in government or public health seemed interested in tracking and getting to the bottom of it. Former Air Force major Tom Haviland became interested and started attempting to document and quantify the cases.

    Sharyl: Tell me a little bit more about the information you've tried to gather and what you learned.

    Tom Haviland: So I decided to do a survey. It started out to be a nationwide survey in the United States, and I expanded it to Canada, UK, Australia, and New Zealand, and asked basic questions. We asked embalmers, what are you seeing? Are you seeing these white, fibrous clots? When did you start seeing them? Where are you finding them on the body? And then how much and what percentage of your corpses are you seeing these white fibrous clots?

    Haviland surveyed over 200 embalmers. He says 73% reported seeing the white fibrous clots. They reported seeing them in about one in five corpses in 2023. None reported seeing any such anomalies prior to the COVID pandemic and the beginning of mass vaccinations....
    ________
    The FDA did offer a response to Full Measure, stating, "The FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) place a high priority on vaccine safety and are committed to our vaccine safety monitoring program. The FDA has not identified any safety signals for fibrous blood clots with COVID-19 vaccines.
    They also stated that since the observations were made on cadavers, it "falls outside of the FDA’s regulatory purview."


    EMMY AWARD-WINNING INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, NYT BEST SELLING AUTHOR
    Sharyl Attkisson is a nonpartisan investigative journalist, five-time Emmy Award winner, and recipient of the Edward R. Murrow award for investigative reporting. She is the NYT bestselling author of Slanted: How the news media taught us to love censorship and hate journalism; The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think and How You Vote, and Stonewalled. She is host, investigative reporter, and managing editor of the Sunday morning national TV news program, Sinclair’s “Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson,” which feeds to 43+ million US households each week and focuses on investigative and accountability reporting.

    For thirty years, Attkisson was a correspondent and anchor at CBS News, PBS, CNN and in local news.

    In 2013, she received an Emmy Award for Outstanding Investigative Journalism for her reporting on :The Business of Congress,” which included an undercover investigation into fundraising by Republican freshmen. She received two other Emmy nominations in 2013 for “Benghazi: Dying for Security” and “Green Energy Going Red.” Additionally, Attkisson received a 2013 Daytime Emmy Award as part of the CBS Sunday Morning team’s entry for Outstanding Morning Program for her report: “Washington Lobbying: K-Street Behind Closed Doors.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    But when the MSM, CDC, FDA, Fuacaii and experts predicted millions would die from covid, folks believed it without question.
    Do we need to list again how much the "experts" got wrong and how they censored and oppressed those who were right.

    Not sure what it will take for some folks to look beyond the "trusted" experts to the evidence & history.

    but hey, all the best to us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Unquestioning belief begets unquestioning belief?
    shouldn't.
    But Unquestioning belief in people that have been proven wrong over and over?
    But still greeting the words of those who were more correct with mocking backhanded dismissals.
    really?

    just seems like to many folks are acting like the crowds in horror & disaster movies.
    Following the popular leadership over the cliff no matter what.
    and dismissing the "crazy" outsider who happens to be mostly right about the dangers and solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    shouldn't.
    But Unquestioning belief in people that have been proven wrong over and over?
    But still greeting the words of those who were more correct with mocking backhanded dismissals.
    really?

    just seems like to many folks are acting like the crowds in horror & disaster movies.
    Following the popular leadership over the cliff no matter what.
    and dismissing the "crazy" outsider who happens to be mostly right about the dangers and solutions.
    It seems you say that but I don't recall much pushback on those on the other side who have been proven wrong over and over.

    BTW I suppose I might equate internet memes as mocking backhanded dismissals too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It seems you say that but I don't recall much pushback on those on the other side who have been proven wrong over and over.
    not sure who you're talking about here.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    BTW I suppose I might equate internet memes as mocking backhanded dismissals too.
    more like mocking forehanded refutations. and 'hail Mary' appeals to reason.

    But I persoanlly never posted a dismisive or rebutal meme until I'd honestly reviewed the Offical pronouncement as best i could.
    not everything the officials & MSM said was false.

    Faucii initially said the mask were useless, And that we shouldn't close schools. AND that vaccines take 10 years to safety test. which was all true. (until it supposedly wasn't) (and before the covid he & other officials said the BEST immunity anyone can have is natural immunity after having a virus)
    He was on both sides of the many of the issues. as were many "officials".
    But they ended up on the wrong side of most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm pretty sure we know. Otherwise it would be in the news. But some people choose to live in the supposed never knowing.
    It is in the news. Just not MSM.... which is just an arm of the worldwide propaganda machine.


    I was talking about our members. We'll never know if they've died and from what. They're just not around any more. Very sad to only see the same 4-5 people posting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    not sure who you're talking about here.


    more like mocking forehanded refutations. and 'hail Mary' appeals to reason.

    But I persoanlly never posted a dismisive or rebutal meme until I'd honestly reviewed the Offical pronouncement as best i could.
    not everything the officials & MSM said was false.

    Faucii initially said the mask were useless, And that we shouldn't close schools. AND that vaccines take 10 years to safety test. which was all true. (until it supposedly wasn't) (and before the covid he & other officials said the BEST immunity anyone can have is natural immunity after having a virus)
    He was on both sides of the many of the issues. as were many "officials".
    But they ended up on the wrong side of most.
    As you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    It is in the news. Just not MSM.... which is just an arm of the worldwide propaganda machine.


    I was talking about our members. We'll never know if they've died and from what. They're just not around any more. Very sad to only see the same 4-5 people posting here.
    Gateway Pundit? Barely news from what I can tell.

    Yeah, they didn't all die from covid or vaccination complications. But yes, sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    As you say.



    Gateway Pundit? Barely news from what I can tell.

    Yeah, they didn't all die from covid or vaccination complications. But yes, sad.
    Gateway Pundit was just commenting on the story. He was actually interviewed by James Kunstler.

    https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstle...he-vaccinated/

    Here you can listen to the original interview with Geert Vanden Bossche the virologist.That way you can"t claim it's biased because Gateway talked about it. Make up your own mind whether you agree with the scientist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Gateway Pundit was just commenting on the story. He was actually interviewed by James Kunstler.

    https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstle...he-vaccinated/

    Here you can listen to the original interview with Geert Vanden Bossche the virologist.That way you can"t claim it's biased because Gateway talked about it. Make up your own mind whether you agree with the scientist.
    FYI, real scientist would be on CNN or maybe even Fox news Sassy, ok?

    Plus what he says doesn't align with my beliefs so even if he is barely credible in some fashion, he's obviously gone off the farm into pure quackery. That no one should ever review or even consider in the slightest.
    Only the gov't & the MSM gets to tell us that we're all about to die.
    You know, from viruses or Russia or China or Iran or terrorist or to much freedom.
    By the way, are you a doctor Sassy?
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