
Originally Posted by
fj1200
I for one don't think you need to post both sides, just think through and be able to defend the one you do post.
Yes, they have a right to fight back. They just can't make the demand to be given the tools to do so. As BD pointed out you can ask the same question to 1944 Dresden and 1944 Tokyo among others.
Do you want that we should stop arming Israel? Make the case. Do you want we should start arming Hamas? Make the case.
The case is simple legally.
Hamas has not attacked the U.S..
Israel is not a treaty bound ally.
If anything it's a civil war.
We are not obligated legally to either side.
There is no real legal counter (other side) to this.
None that could not be honestly turned to say that we should help ANY country that has an internal conflict over land or internal kidnapping bombings etc..
Do we need a list of countries like this so that we can decide which side to help with billions of dollars and billions in arms?
The concept of fighting for freedom & land is great.
The Palestinians have live in, been corralled into, Gaza for decades maybe hundreds of years?. It's their land.
Should they be attacking Israel? NO.
Should Israel bomb them all out of their homes, off their land and starve them to death. Id say No. (so do many in Israel BTW)
Should we help either of them kill each other. I say Absolutely not.
MAYBE we should go back to the ONGOING, never ending, project of trying to help them live in relative peace.
Or maybe we should mind our own biz. And let them work it out. without our "help".
People in the U.S. seem very emotionally attached to the issue and to want to take sides.
But legally, factually it's NOT our problem. Israel helped create Hamas.
Israel is not a child. It's the dominant military in the region. How about we let other countries be independent when it comes to dealing with internal conflicts like this.
Humanitarian aid is something that the U.S. should ALWAYS be ready to do. private & public.
But helping to kill people of other nations? without a declaration of war?
How does that work?
Oh yeah... we've done it before... precedents... seems we're entangled the question in precedents again.
Last edited by revelarts; 06-29-2024 at 10:33 AM.
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