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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Well, I'm not subserviant to anyone but my boss. And my family. And friends. In fact, if I recall, Christ was pretty clear the 'servant's heart' is the heart of a Christian.

    So...if I'm a servant to ANYONE or EVERYONE, all glory be to God.
    How about a servant to jews only, and and enforcer of their laws on everyone else. That's what you signed up for. Are you ready?

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    "Signed-up for."? I didn't sign anything. What're you talkin' about?:

    But Christians aren't called to choose those whom they serve; Even if my 'master' was an unbeliever, it's my Job to serve him/her as if I was serving Christ.

    Although I haven't knowingly served a jew, I would never pick-and choose.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    "Signed-up for."? I didn't sign anything. What're you talkin' about?:

    But Christians aren't called to choose those whom they serve; Even if my 'master' was an unbeliever, it's my Job to serve him/her as if I was serving Christ.

    Although I haven't knowingly served a jew, I would never pick-and choose.
    Serve your master? Are you a christian or a slave? Jesus's kingdom is not of this world.

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    I'm a slave to people. I'm a servant to people. As I serve people, I serve Christ.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    I'm a slave to people. I'm a servant to people. As I serve people, I serve Christ.
    Does jesus command you to secure israel for the jewish people?

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    DMP. Come wash my car when you're done serving everyone else.
    Last edited by TheSage; 10-26-2007 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Yes there are different phases of the story. The ancient world was composed of various forms of totalitarian theocracy and the like. That's why in modern times we consider theocratic and ethnic supremacist regimes to be obsolete, but you noahide christians have your head straight up your ass. I mean perfectly straight, not at an angle or anything.
    Noahide? It's a non jew accepts that jews are the chosen people and is subservient to them. And concedes to live by the noahide laws, which forbid other religions, and place all jews as a race of priests above everyone else.
    I feel the need for some clarification here. Are you calling all christians "noahide"?

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't know any christians that consider Jews superior and somone to be subservient to. Also obviously, since there are so many other religions, we don't subscribe to the "noahide" laws that "forbid all other religions".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    I feel the need for some clarification here. Are you calling all christians "noahide"?

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't know any christians that consider Jews superior and somone to be subservient to. Also obviously, since there are so many other religions, we don't subscribe to the "noahide" laws that "forbid all other religions".
    Do you believe god has one plan for the nation of israel and one for the christian church?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Do you believe god has one plan for the nation of israel and one for the christian church?
    I'm not very religious, but here goes.

    In the OT God considers the Jews the chosen people and leads them out of slavery.

    Jews however do not consider Jesus the son of God and are still waiting for that person to be born.

    So, do I believe God has one plan for Israel and one for the christians? NO, I do not think God cares for one other the other, especially since sending Jesus to earth was the beginning of the Christian faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    I'm not very religious, but here goes.

    In the OT God considers the Jews the chosen people and leads them out of slavery.

    Jews however do not consider Jesus the son of God and are still waiting for that person to be born.

    So, do I believe God has one plan for Israel and one for the christians? NO, I do not think God cares for one other the other, especially since sending Jesus to earth was the beginning of the Christian faith.
    A Son of Amalek! RUN! lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    A Son of Amalek! RUN! lol.
    you make no sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    you make no sense...
    Oh but I do. You're too ignorant to understand me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Does jesus command you to secure israel for the jewish people?
    No. He's already done that. He's asked us to LOVE Israel by helping them defend themselves against the evil invading Muslim extremists and Anti-Noahides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    No. He's already done that. He's asked us to LOVE Israel by helping them defend themselves against the evil invading Muslim extremists and Anti-Noahides.
    So going to war is how you express love?

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