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    Default Commander in Chief Hillary?

    Those who worry that a Hillary Clinton presidency would just be the Return of Bill may yet be proved optimists. Judging by her article in Foreign Affairs on October 16 Hillary is determined to bring back the human rights-based failures of Jimmy Carter.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ity_for_t.html

    In a June 1977 speech,
    http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/...emocrac/55.htm
    Jimmy Carter said he wanted to make American government “competent and more humane.” Carter celebrated what he called the end of our “…inordinate fear of communism which once led us to embrace any dictator who joined us in that fear.” And – establishing the most ineffective foreign policy since King Canute’s – Carter said, “Our policy must reflect our belief that the world can hope for more than simple survival and our belief that dignity and freedom are fundamental spiritual requirements… we have reaffirmed America's commitment to human rights as a fundamental tenet of our foreign policy.”

    In her article, Clinton pledges a return to Carterism, writing that, “We must once again make human rights a centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy and a core element of our conception of democracy.” That was Carter’s first of five foreign policy principles.

    To the other four, Clinton also pledges her allegiance.

    Carter’s second point was to “reinforce the bonds among democracies.” Channeling Carter, Clinton wants to, “…rebuild our alliances. The problem we face is global; we must therefore be attentive to the values, concerns, and interests of our allies and partners.” Those values, concerns and interests -- such as Europe’s dependence on Iranian oil and the planned arms sales to China delayed so far by Mr. Bush -- will prevent action on Iran before it achieves its nuclear weapons ambitions and endanger every American ally on China’s periphery, including Japan.

    Carter said that to deal with the Soviet Union, his third principle was, “…a freeze on further modernization and production of weapons and a continuing, substantial reduction of strategic nuclear weapons as well. We want a comprehensive ban on all nuclear testing, a prohibition against all chemical warfare, no attack capability against space satellites, and arms limitations in the Indian Ocean.” Clinton agrees.

    Hillary Clinton wrote that she would, “…seek to negotiate an accord that substantially and verifiably reduces the U.S. and Russian nuclear arsenals. This dramatic initiative would send a strong message of nuclear restraint to the world, while we retain enough strength to deter others from trying to match our arsenal. I will also seek Senate approval of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty by 2009...”

    Carter didn’t go as far as Clinton did, physically embracing the wife of terrorist Yassir Arafat, but he did try the same “peace process” Hillary would repeat. In that same speech, Carter said he would pursue a peace process to establish, in accordance with existing UN resolutions, a Palestinian homeland at the pre-1967 war borders, requiring Israel to give up the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

    Hillary wants a, “…renewed Middle East peace process that would mean security and normal relations for Israel and the Palestinians. The fundamental elements of a final agreement have been clear since 2000: a Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank in return for a declaration that the conflict is over, recognition of Israel's right to exist, guarantees of Israeli security, diplomatic recognition of Israel, and normalization of its relations with Arab states.” Four years of failure under Carter, eight years of Clinton and now a year or two under Bush don’t dissuade Sen. Clinton.

    A Hillary Clinton presidency would also be pledged to Carter’s fifth principle – “…even at the risk of some friction with our friends, to reduce the danger of nuclear proliferation and the worldwide spread of conventional weapons.” Clinton is aiming to take dramatic steps to, “…reduce our nuclear arsenal [to] build support for the coalitions we need to address the threat of nuclear proliferation and help the United States regain the moral high ground.” Clinton, like Carter, wants “to negotiate an accord that substantially and verifiably reduces the US and Russian nuclear arsenals.”

    Faced with the utter collapse of the “incentive” deals given North Korea by her husband and by George Bush, Hillary would remake that agreement and make another one like it with Iran. She proposes, “…to offer Iran a carefully calibrated package of incentives” in return for which -- she thinks -- Iran would give up sponsorship of terrorism and its nuclear weapons program. Nothing succeeds like failure.

    The North Korean deals negotiated by the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations were broken by the North Koreans before the ink was dry. The horrible silence you hear about the September 6 Israeli air strike in Syria is the result of the Bush administration’s desperate attempt to conceal the failure of the deal with North Korea. The Israelis caught the Syrians up to their noses in North Korean nuclear proliferation and provided a carefully calibrated air package to incent the Syrians to stop importing nuclear technology. None of those facts will dissuade Mrs. Carter, er, Clinton.

    She wants to create a “Northeast Asian security regime” to secure our interests against North Korea. Never mind NATO: under Hillary, we’ll have “NEATO.”

    read the rest at...
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23083
    Last edited by stephanie; 10-30-2007 at 03:59 AM.
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    Carter's and B.J. Clinton's foreign policy has cost our country dearly. In fact we are still paying for it with blood, and will continue to do so for many more years. This country will be driven into complete ruin if we have another President with liberal foreign policy.
    PRAIRIE FIRE by William Ayers: Obama's guide to destory America
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    Carter's and B.J. Clinton's foreign policy has cost our country dearly. In fact we are still paying for it with blood, and will continue to do so for many more years. This country will be driven into complete ruin if we have another President with liberal foreign policy.
    If you feel that strongly Hawk, you might want to investigate residency in some place more to your liking.....

    how about that multicultural jeffersonian democracy that is blossoming on the banks of the Tigris and Euphrates even as we speak?

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    Hillary would be a complete disaster. Has anyone here read "It Takes a Village?" The woman is a socialist with hard leanings toward modified communism, and the left wing wants her in office so badly they can taste it.

    MFM, how about you joining that lovely socialist state down south with Porky Chavez and his minions that the appeasers among us seem to so adamantly support?
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Commander in Chief Hillary has a very nice sound to it, so much nicer than; chimp boy in chief bush.
    A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    Hillary would be a complete disaster. Has anyone here read "It Takes a Village?" The woman is a socialist with hard leanings toward modified communism, and the left wing wants her in office so badly they can taste it.

    MFM, how about you joining that lovely socialist state down south with Porky Chavez and his minions that the appeasers among us seem to so adamantly support?
    Hey..boogerman.... if Hillary wins, I won't have to move anywhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Hey..boogerman.... if Hillary wins, I won't have to move anywhere!
    I appreciate your showing your age again with the cheesy name mangling. It just serves as a reminder of what a childish person we are dealing with when speaking to you.

    You go right ahead and keep on pinning your hopes on a Hillary win. America may be divided, but she isn't crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    I appreciate your showing your age again with the cheesy name mangling. It just serves as a reminder of what a childish person we are dealing with when speaking to you.

    You go right ahead and keep on pinning your hopes on a Hillary win. America may be divided, but she isn't crazy.
    have you never replaced the first M with an H in MFM? I seem to recall you had.

    I am not pinning my hopes on anyone. I am waiting for my party to caucus in Maine and I will do what I can to capture support for my candidate - who is not Hillary, by the way. I will then wait until the convention picks our party's candidate and then I will do what I can to help that candidate get elected.

    Who does the religious right vote for?

    Hillary: pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control NY moderate
    Rudy: pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control NY moderate
    Mitt: flip flopping cult member

    my guess...they vote with the seat of their pants.

    who does everyone to the left of top dead center who is pissed off that the chimp has driven the bus into ditch vote for?

    my guess: anyone with a D after their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    have you never replaced the first M with an H in MFM? I seem to recall you had.
    Prove it mfm. I don't play that game.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    Prove it mfm. I don't play that game.
    in which case, I apologize. I won't play that game either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    in which case, I apologize. I won't play that game either.
    The H is more fitting. M = manfrommaine = bullshit, H = homofrommaine = accuarate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Hey..boogerman.... if Hillary wins, I won't have to move anywhere!
    Now that is a scary thought!

    But remember, the President can only do so much harm. Of course, the last seven years have shown us that the office can do more harm than we thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Evil View Post
    The H is more fitting. M = manfrommaine = bullshit, H = homofrommaine = accuarate.

    you are wrong, of course...but I am curious... how would you think you could possibly KNOW such a thing?

    it seems like such a childish playground insult...

    but then, I consider the source!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    you are wrong, of course...but I am curious... how would you think you could possibly KNOW such a thing?

    it seems like such a childish playground insult...

    but then, I consider the source!
    Simple for anyone to see many of the replies you have left one the board, and the favorites that you use. How many times can you make the reference to cream dripping on ones chin, or boy butter, or all the other innuendos of sex with children. Really, there is enough there for anyone to see what a shit bag you are.

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    Hillary is Republican Lite as far as I can tell, she has supported Bush policies 100%, even now with the Iran resolution.

    She is the HAWK of the Democratic bunch that is out there imo....there is no other candidate that comes close to her Hawkishness, on Foreign Policy. Sure she may have some ideals on social issues, kind of like a "Compassionate Conservative".



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