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    Default The age old question and the answer

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21255186/?GT1=10533

    This study illustrates why abortion needs to be legal world wide.

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    Hey, lets legalize rape and murder too, because it happens when its illegal anyway.




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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
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    This study illustrates why abortion needs to be legal world wide.
    Abortion is an abomination. How can man take the most innocent and helpless among him and mutilate it for his own ends? Abortion is little more than a sign of the decline of man and shows that there is an egregious lack of natural affection.
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    TM's conclusion is a logical fallacy.
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    Your own country has desided it should stay safe and legal. There are two people at risk in an abortion. Do you prefer they both die?

    There are logical reasons to keep abortion legal. Making abortion Illegal kills more people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Your own country has desided it should stay safe and legal. There are two people at risk in an abortion. Do you prefer they both die?

    There are logical reasons to keep abortion legal. Making abortion Illegal kills more people.
    The statistics are NOT on your side here TM. The numbers of births where the mother is in danger are so slim as to negate the point of your line of argumentation.

    Every one of you abortion supporters should be required to go watch one happen.

    Abortion kills, every day, and it is a shame to the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Making abortion Illegal kills more people.
    kills more people than what? Meteors? Snakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21255186/?GT1=10533

    This study illustrates why abortion needs to be legal world wide.
    Can you prove to me that the number of abortions will go down by keeping it legal? If so, you have my support but like your own report states, it doesn't matter whether a country makes it legal or not the numbers won't change.

    So, tell me why then we should "legally kill human beings". Why should we make it legal?

    This report was, as I suspected produced by the Guttmacher Institute. Remember it is their job to make abortion pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
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    This study illustrates why abortion needs to be legal world wide.
    I think it further illustrates why you should of been an abortion.

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    We should make cars illegal too.

    And stupidity. Course, we'd need most of Congress thrown in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Your own country has desided it should stay safe and legal.
    Our "country" has never decided anything about abortion except the partial-birth abortion BAN. A few judges on the Supreme Court decided it for America. The liberals are way too afraid to let the American people decide on the issue.
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    Abortion is legal in the US. The reason it is legal is because people were sick to death of hearing stories of women dying from botched abortions. Many ofr you are too young to remember the stories in the paper about just such occurances.

    When you make abortion illegal you do not change the ammount of abortions being performed you merely sent the patient to the underground and what you get is dead and maimed pregnant women.

    READ the study and like an adult face the facts.

    America and all the other countries who faced this fact long ago have saved lives.

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    The reason it is legal is because people were sick to death of hearing stories of women dying from botched abortions.
    truth, according to the CDC, fewer than 200 women died of the complications of illegal abortions in the year prior to Roe v Wade....there were more deaths from bicycle accidents than illegal abortions....I don't recall people demanding that bicycles be outlawed......

    America and all the other countries who faced this fact long ago have saved lives.
    assuming of course, you ignore the 46 million lives it cost.....

    in third world countries where women are dying from illegal abortions they are dying in even greater numbers from giving birth....it's because of a lack of health care and penicillin, not because of the lack of abortion rights.....

    if you look at the statistics for abortion both before and after Roe v Wade in the US you will find that the number of abortions occurring increased dramatically.....the only reason this study reached different conclusions is that the numbers were estimated....and they were estimated by the Gutmacher Institute, which is the research arm of Planned Parenthood....

    I don't know anyone who thinks Planned Parenthood is going to say anything honest about abortion......do you?
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    You didnt read the study did you?

    The study shows that you do not stop abortions by making them illegal. You send it underground and you end up with no fetus and a more maimed and dead women. Those 200 women you metioned were people who were someones daughter or sister. Have you no heart?



    The study was done by Gilda Sedgh of the Guttmacher Institute in the United States and colleagues from the World Health Organization
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    You didnt read the study did you?

    The study shows that you do not stop abortions by making them illegal. You send it underground and you end up with no fetus and a more maimed and dead women. Those 200 women you metioned were people who were someones daughter or sister. Have you no heart?



    The study was done by Gilda Sedgh of the Guttmacher Institute in the United States and colleagues from the World Health Organization
    actually, I read a premilinary copy published by Guttmacher about a month ago.....that's when I first became aware it was a total fabrication and misrepresentation....now, as far as having no heart, let me assure you I have a heart....and the 46 million who died because liberals want to kill their children, had hearts....the difference is, mine's still beating....
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