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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    It has nothing to do with safety, just as simply taking a license would not help matters, but would clear the roads as every driver would eventually be banned from driving. It IS a means of getting more money. Any law that imposes fines is a back door tax. Unfortunately you can't legislate common sense. But you can tax it thru fines.

    I have been driving for over 40 years and all across the country. I smoke and drink coffee daily and never have had an accident because of not paying attention. The only accidents I have been involved in were not my fault. And no traffic tickets in that 40 years. Simply a matter of obeying the law and being aware of what your doing. While smoking or drinking.

    Law are in place to protect the public. But there is a point where they are just to control and tax the public. Such laws as no smoking drinking or talking will slowly expand to everyone in the car and then to things outside the car and soon there will be government inspectors for each household. All designed with fines to fill the liberal coffers.

    The government produces nothing so must justify its existance through control and pays for its self through taxes.
    You know, the United States is the only place where we do more than drive when we're in the car. The Auto Bahn has no speed limit yet has far fewer accidents than our roadways.

    And you know what, I've seen idiots driving with the newspaper open on their steering wheel... sorry, I think they should absolutely be ticked.

    You're worried it's a revenue raiser? OK. Then I support Mr. P's idea. You drive with the paper open, putting your make-up on, things like that... license suspended. Works for me cause if someone is too stupid to realize they shouldn't be reading a newspaper while driving a car, I'm ok with them being off the road for a while.

    BTW, just so you know, I'm not totally convinced that the law is a good idea because I think laws against being reckless apply to most of the worst stuff. I don't mind a dialogue on the utility of the law. I just had to jump in when I saw that the thread wasn't only intentionally belligerant but was intentinally misleading as well that I thought I'd put my .02 in.
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    Tell me Jilly dear, how is my thread belligerant and misleading? I am pointing out another example of the nannies on the Dem party trying to stick their nose into eveyone elses bussiness.

    As far as Texas, you left out how they are NOT trying to make it illegal to smoke, drink, or eat. Libs have to expand the bill so they can steal more the people's money as the Police play the roll as tax collector


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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    You know, the United States is the only place where we do more than drive when we're in the car. The Auto Bahn has no speed limit yet has far fewer accidents than our roadways.

    And you know what, I've seen idiots driving with the newspaper open on their steering wheel... sorry, I think they should absolutely be ticked.

    You're worried it's a revenue raiser? OK. Then I support Mr. P's idea. You drive with the paper open, putting your make-up on, things like that... license suspended. Works for me cause if someone is too stupid to realize they shouldn't be reading a newspaper while driving a car, I'm ok with them being off the road for a while.

    BTW, just so you know, I'm not totally convinced that the law is a good idea because I think laws against being reckless apply to most of the worst stuff. I don't mind a dialogue on the utility of the law. I just had to jump in when I saw that the thread wasn't only intentionally belligerant but was intentinally misleading as well that I thought I'd put my .02 in.
    Someone driving and reading a paper will be pulled over by any alert cop that sees such action. And the person will get sited. There doesn't need to be a law banning everything, is what I was saying. The only purpose for such a law would be to collect revenue.

    As for the autobohm, I'm not familiar with all the laws over there, but I would guess people driving at 100 mph plus would be concentrating on the road. It's europe and involves european laws and not US laws. Socialist vs wannabe socialist in the case of the dems. ever see some of the films from over there concerning bad driving habits? They have some real pieces of work on the road just like we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Tell me Jilly dear, how is my thread belligerant and misleading? I am pointing out another example of the nannies on the Dem party trying to stick their nose into eveyone elses bussiness.

    As far as Texas, you left out how they are NOT trying to make it illegal to smoke, drink, or eat. Libs have to expand the bill so they can steal more the people's money as the Police play the roll as tax collector
    Except that it was a REPUBLICAN.... Man, you're obtuse...

    Now go look up the word.

    We'll be waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    Except that it was a REPUBLICAN.... Man, you're obtuse...

    Now go look up the word.

    We'll be waiting.
    I am still waiting how the thread is belligerant and misleading

    As far as the Texas law, it is a way to get more money from the public. Being a lib I know you are all for that

    It helps make up for all those unforgivable Bush tax cuts


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    I am still waiting how the thread is belligerant and misleading

    As far as the Texas law, it is a way to get more money from the public. Being a lib I know you are all for that

    It helps make up for all those unforgivable Bush tax cuts

    B-b-b-but the title of the therad is more liberal lunacy, but it is repubs who are in favour of it..Don't you think that is misleading Reddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    Someone driving and reading a paper will be pulled over by any alert cop that sees such action. And the person will get sited. There doesn't need to be a law banning everything, is what I was saying. The only purpose for such a law would be to collect revenue.

    As for the autobohm, I'm not familiar with all the laws over there, but I would guess people driving at 100 mph plus would be concentrating on the road. It's europe and involves european laws and not US laws. Socialist vs wannabe socialist in the case of the dems. ever see some of the films from over there concerning bad driving habits? They have some real pieces of work on the road just like we do.

    You cannot legislate common sense.
    Sited for what? Is it illegal to read a paper when you drive? Dumb yes, this is what these laws will target 'stupidity'..I still favor taking the license though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    B-b-b-but the title of the therad is more liberal lunacy, but it is repubs who are in favour of it..Don't you think that is misleading Reddy?
    This thread is liberal lunacy in Vermont. Jilly is the one who brings up Texas. The law in Texas is not as nutty as the one in Vermont

    Are their any conservatives in Vermont. I think very few, if any

    To Jilly, telling the truth about lib is misleading


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Sited for what? Is it illegal to read a paper when you drive? Dumb yes, this is what these laws will target 'stupidity'..I still favor taking the license though.
    Like that will stop people from driving


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    This thread is liberal lunacy in Vermont. Jilly is the one who brings up Texas. The law in Texas is not as nutty as the one in Vermont
    Ah, now there are degrees of nuttiness. Thanks for the clarification Reddy. I knew there was a reason I ignored your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    Ah, now there are degrees of nuttiness. Thanks for the clarification Reddy. I knew there was a reason I ignored your posts.

    Note to self: Don't do it again! You know better. You know better. You know better
    Try not ignoring the posts. You might learn something and see how libs will destroy your life


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    Ah, now there are degrees of nuttiness. Thanks for the clarification Reddy. I knew there was a reason I ignored your posts.

    Note to self: Don't do it again! You know better. You know better. You know better
    lol... you also know he hasn't read either bill, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Try not ignoring the posts. You might learn something and see how libs will destroy your life
    Yeah, libs are really trying to destroy my life. One of the most controversial and controlling pieces of legisation passed in the past couple of years was the Patriot Act. Who passed that law again?

    Jillian
    I know he hasn't read it, which is why I rarely read his/her posts. He is mainly on SOB with me, but sometimes his pap gets a bit OTT that I can't help myself. Should know better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    Yeah, libs are really trying to destroy my life. One of the most controversial and controlling pieces of legisation passed in the past couple of years was the Patriot Act. Who passed that law again?

    Jillian
    I know he hasn't read it, which is why I rarely read his/her posts. He is mainly on SOB with me, but sometimes his pap gets a bit OTT that I can't help myself. Should know better!
    and the libs have tried to go back and kill the Patriot Act

    Remember Reid gleefully smirking how "we have killed the Patriot Act?"

    Demco rats are more worried about the rights of terrorists then protecting the country


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Sited for what? Is it illegal to read a paper when you drive? Dumb yes, this is what these laws will target 'stupidity'..I still favor taking the license though.
    For improper operation of a motor vehicle. How its worded depends on the individual states. Don't have a penal code available to give you the exact wording but that's the general law that would cover it.
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