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    Default Will reformed Zep play "Stairway"?

    Very interesting article about how "Stairway To Heaven" almost destroyed Led Zeppelin.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2179112/pagenum/all/#page_start

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    Sweet! There's a possibility that I might be able to actually attend a Zep concert!

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    Nobody other than Jimmy Page should ever play "Stairway to Heaven".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    Nobody other than Jimmy Page should ever play "Stairway to Heaven".
    My brother plays that riff pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    My brother plays that riff pretty well.
    "Hey, can't you read the sign?"
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    you have to admit this is a good line....

    It was "Stairway" that sold them to a mass audience that found it amusing to hold lighters aloft throughout the song, perhaps under the understandable impression that they were attending a concert by the Moody Blues.
    ...full immersion.....

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    What does that song mean? Over the years, I've heard various explanations including one that the "lady" in the song is a prostitute (perhaps the "stairway" is a symbol of drugs?)

    One of the best explanations of the song I've heard is this one:

    It's possible that Stairway to Heaven also makes many references to Tolkien's story (i.e Lord of the Rings). The phrase, "In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees" could be a reference to the smoke rings blown by the wizard Gandalf. Some say the song itself was inspired by the novel - and that the lady spoken of in the tale is Lady Galadriel, the Queen of Elves who lives in the golden forest of Lothlorien. In the book, all that glittered around her, was in fact, gold, as the leaves of the trees in the forest of Lothlorien were golden.

    http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=328

    It makes sense. Led Zepplin songs have many references to Tolkien (one song of theirs refers to "Mordor" and "Gollum the Evil One"). In fact, "The Lord of the Rings" and "The Hobbit" were both very popular with young folks back in the 1970s and particularly on college campuses.
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    Years ago, before Tolkien was popularised, I heard a fairly serious discussion on the topic and it was suggested that heroin was the stairway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Years ago, before Tolkien was popularised, I heard a fairly serious discussion on the topic and it was suggested that heroin was the stairway.
    I heard the same thing said about America's "Horse with No Name" and Simon and Garfunkel's "Bridge over Troubled Water"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    I heard the same thing said about America's "Horse with No Name" and Simon and Garfunkel's "Bridge over Troubled Water"
    Heck I hadn't heard of that, but when you think about it "horse" is an old street name for heroin. But I never would have connected Simon and Garfunkel with it. Still I suppose when it comes to drug allusions nothing is as bare-faced as "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    What does that song mean? Over the years, I've heard various explanations including one that the "lady" in the song is a prostitute (perhaps the "stairway" is a symbol of drugs?)

    One of the best explanations of the song I've heard is this one:

    It's possible that Stairway to Heaven also makes many references to Tolkien's story (i.e Lord of the Rings). The phrase, "In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees" could be a reference to the smoke rings blown by the wizard Gandalf. Some say the song itself was inspired by the novel - and that the lady spoken of in the tale is Lady Galadriel, the Queen of Elves who lives in the golden forest of Lothlorien. In the book, all that glittered around her, was in fact, gold, as the leaves of the trees in the forest of Lothlorien were golden.

    http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=328

    It makes sense. Led Zepplin songs have many references to Tolkien (one song of theirs refers to "Mordor" and "Gollum the Evil One"). In fact, "The Lord of the Rings" and "The Hobbit" were both very popular with young folks back in the 1970s and particularly on college campuses.
    Good summary, and an awesome link, thanks for that!

    I think you're probably right about Tolkien. Speaking more generally, I guess the song is about wanting something, then ultimately realizing once you have it, that it's not so great anymore, whether that thing be heroin or the ring or what have you. I do think "all that glitters is gold" is one of the greatest, most haunting rock lyrics ever written.

    I guess I can see them not wanting to play it, but I'm sure lots of people will be hoping for it, and they're obviously getting back together for the money (otherwise, they could just play at a local pub or something), why not give the people what they want?
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    If you play it backwards, you can hear Plant say "Oh, my sweet Satan."

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Heck I hadn't heard of that, but when you think about it "horse" is an old street name for heroin. But I never would have connected Simon and Garfunkel with it. Still I suppose when it comes to drug allusions nothing is as bare-faced as "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
    Yep... and "White Room (Cream - describes an LSD trip at a train station)", "White Rabbit (Jefferson Airplane - drugs in general)", "Snow Blind (Black Sabbath - cocaine)", "Sweet Leaf (Black Sabbath - marijuane)" and, of course, let's not forget "Cocaine (Eric Clapton -- I'll let you guess)"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    Yep... and "White Room (Cream - describes an LSD trip at a train station)", "White Rabbit (Jefferson Airplane - drugs in general)", "Snow Blind (Black Sabbath - cocaine)", "Sweet Leaf (Black Sabbath - marijuane)" and, of course, let's not forget "Cocaine (Eric Clapton -- I'll let you guess)"
    Dylan - "Rainy Day Women #12 & 35"
    Cypress Hill - "Hits from the Bong"
    Redman - "How to Roll a Blunt"
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