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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Tell that to Tom whats his name, He was once the head Dem in the Senate
    and the folks in HIS STATE gave him the boot, not America.

    Why do you run away from Rasmussen's polls that have shown a huge lead for democrats in the congressional race for months now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Reid's problems in Nevada are a Nevada issue.... nationally, democrats will pretty much sweep the table - as the Rasmussen poll suggests.
    Dreaming...can be a beautiful thing...

    The Democrats were given a chance...and watching them implode in less than a year....was a work of,....????
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    Dreaming...can be a beautiful thing...

    The Democrats were given a chance...and watching them implode in less than a year....was a work of,....????
    you wanna put any money on that? I say that democrats increase their majorities in both chambers.

    YOu wanna bet, or just bullshit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    you wanna put any money on that? I say that democrats increase their majorities in both chambers.

    YOu wanna bet, or just bullshit?


    Your HUGH MAJORIRTY this last election wansn't enough...

    I'll just sit here and laugh...like I alwsays do..thank you...
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    Your HUGH MAJORIRTY this last election wansn't enough...

    I'll just sit here and laugh...like I alwsays do..thank you...

    "hugh majority"? who is he?

    I know of Hugh Hefner and Hugh Downes, but not that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Please explain how Reid and Pelosi "moved the goalposts"

    Oh...and the stated goal: Dubya said it best:

    "Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people."

    I say, "mission accomplished"!! Where in there did he ever say anything about establishing a US presence? Where in there did he ever say anything about babysitting sectarian squabbles? Iraq has been disarmed of its WMD's (that was the easy one!) Saddam can no longer support anything except a thriving ant colony on his rotting corpse, and the Iraqi people are free to do whatever the fuck they want to do. It just so happens that what they really want to do is kill each other....and that ain't America's problem.
    Your bolded question is answered by W's bolded sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Your bolded question is answered by W's bolded sentence.

    only after a hearty dose of neocon koolaid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Your bolded question is answered by W's bolded sentence.

    only after a hearty dose of neocon koolaid!

    and I notice that you didn't answer any of my other points.

    typical.

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    I'm curious as to what exactly you mean when you say we're "winning." If you mean we're winning an era of permanent occupation in Iraq, then I'd agree that we are in fact "winning." If you're talking about something else, I'll have to disagree because there is nothing else. All we're winning is a lifetime of permanent warzone servitude and nation-building for our troops in the middle of a sectarian struggle for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    here is a novel idea:

    I wrote a post to you in which I countered the assertions made at the outset of this thread. That was post #9. WHy don't YOU use YOUR words and try to compose a reply to MY words contained therein?

    I know it's crazy,and something we've never tried before, you and I...but why not give it a try?
    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Translation - do not post facts, just go with what I tell you about Democrats
    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Here is a novel idea:

    I wrote a post in which I countered your assertions made. Why don't YOU use YOUR words and try to compose a reply to MY words contained therein?
    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Why should he start now?
    I did. Better question: when will YOU ever start to use YOUR OWN words to argue against MY words?

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    So who do we get a "terms of surrender" from if we win? As the enemy is an idea the concept of "winning" is shallow. The best that can be achieved is a slowdown of attacks from the groups. And if the attacks come at 6 or 8 year intervals what have we really accomplished?

    As for why good news is not news, do you have to ask?
    A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.

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    Winning WHAT?
    The only folks who believe that the U.S. troops are "winning" are the Bush apologists and the extreme right-wing sites who are desperate to retain their audiences.
    Even American military commanders are calling Iraq "a quagmire" and "a failure."

    When are you idiots going to admit it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Winning WHAT?
    The only folks who believe that the U.S. troops are "winning" are the Bush apologists and the extreme right-wing sites who are desperate to retain their audiences.
    Even American military commanders are calling Iraq "a quagmire" and "a failure."

    When are you idiots going to admit it?

    The only people who believe we are losing are those who couldn't bear the thought that the US could be successful with a Republican President. Not to mention it would impeach every bullshit accusation we've had to listen to ad nauseum since 2003.

    It's damned pathetic that there are those that would see this Nation lose simply to appease their bullshit, partisan beliefs.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Winning WHAT?
    The only folks who believe that the U.S. troops are "winning" are the Bush apologists and the extreme right-wing sites who are desperate to retain their audiences.
    Even American military commanders are calling Iraq "a quagmire" and "a failure."

    When are you idiots going to admit it?
    Ask Reid and Pelosi - they are the ones who keep inserting a surrender date in spending bills

    They have done it 41 times - and it failed everytime

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Ask Reid and Pelosi - they are the ones who keep inserting a surrender date in spending bills

    They have done it 41 times - and it failed everytime
    I would suggest that you use the word "surrender" correctly, or not at all.

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