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    Default 250 Iraqi Detainees Claim Torture By US Forces

    Is it true?


    WASHINGTON (AFP) - More than 250 people once held in Iraqi prisons, including the notorious Abu Ghraib, have filed suit against a US military contractor for their alleged torture, attorneys said Tuesday.

    The Center for Constitutional Rights said a lawsuit was filed in US federal court on Monday asking for millions of dollars in compensatory and punitive damages against CACI International Inc. of Arlington, Virginia.

    The complaint, filed in the name 256 former detainees who were released without ever being charged with a crime, alleges that CACI interrogators who were sent to Iraqi prisons directed and engaged in torture between 2003-2004.

    The lawsuit charges that the detainees were repeatedly beaten, sodomized, threatened with rape, kept naked in their cells, subjected to electric shock and attacked by unmuzzled dogs, among other humiliations.

    The court action also names two CACI employees -- Stephen Stefanowski, knowns as Big Steve, and Daniel Johnson, known as DJ -- accusing them of participating in the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

    The two contractors allegedly directed corporal Charles Graner, who was sentenced to 10 years in prison for this role in the Abu Ghraib scandal, and sergeant Ivan Frederick, who is serving an eight-year jail term, according to the lawsuit.

    "These corporate guys worked in a conspiracy with those military guys to torture people," Susan Burke, the lead attorney in the case, told AFP.

    "And now the military have been held accountable, but the company guys and the company have not been," she said.

    The complaint is the latest against CACI, which has faced lawsuits since 2004. A previous class-action lawsuit was rejected by a court.


    More: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071218...rytorturecourt

    Keep your ears peeled. More to come on this issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    What is your definition of US Forces?

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    United States Forces.


    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    What is your definition of US Forces?
    Why do you ask?

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    my definition of u.s. forces, the people we underpay, under equip, and prosecute for the smallest infraction.



    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    United States Forces.




    Why do you ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    United States Forces.




    Why do you ask?
    With your title of the thread you are attempting to equate the people being sued with people serving in the Armed Forces of the United States of America.

    Tell me exactly which branch of the Armed Forces do the people in the article belong to?

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    You can equate whatever you want, mb.


    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    With your title of the thread you are attempting to equate the people being sued with people serving in the Armed Forces of the United States of America.

    Tell me exactly which branch of the Armed Forces do the people in the article belong to?
    I did no such equation. Any more questions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    You can equate whatever you want, mb.

    I did no such equation. Any more questions?
    You certainly did make such an unfounded equivocation. The title of the thread is clearly an antimilitary swipe as it is so ridiculously broad that no other reasoned conclusion can be drawn from.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    You, bm, are a liar.


    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    You certainly did make such an unfounded equivocation. The title of the thread is clearly an antimilitary swipe as it is so ridiculously broad that no other reasoned conclusion can be drawn from.
    The title of this thread indicates exactly the title of the linked article in conversation. I did not take it as antimilitary, a swipe or in any way unreasonable. If you care to comment on the article then go for it. If it is your intent to disparage me then you have radically missed your target and damaged your own feet. I don't for a moment imagine that you understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Is it true?


    WASHINGTON (AFP) - More than 250 people once held in Iraqi prisons, including the notorious Abu Ghraib, have filed suit against a US military contractor for their alleged torture, attorneys said Tuesday.

    The Center for Constitutional Rights said a lawsuit was filed in US federal court on Monday asking for millions of dollars in compensatory and punitive damages against CACI International Inc. of Arlington, Virginia.

    The complaint, filed in the name 256 former detainees who were released without ever being charged with a crime, alleges that CACI interrogators who were sent to Iraqi prisons directed and engaged in torture between 2003-2004.

    The lawsuit charges that the detainees were repeatedly beaten, sodomized, threatened with rape, kept naked in their cells, subjected to electric shock and attacked by unmuzzled dogs, among other humiliations.

    The court action also names two CACI employees -- Stephen Stefanowski, knowns as Big Steve, and Daniel Johnson, known as DJ -- accusing them of participating in the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

    The two contractors allegedly directed corporal Charles Graner, who was sentenced to 10 years in prison for this role in the Abu Ghraib scandal, and sergeant Ivan Frederick, who is serving an eight-year jail term, according to the lawsuit.

    "These corporate guys worked in a conspiracy with those military guys to torture people," Susan Burke, the lead attorney in the case, told AFP.

    "And now the military have been held accountable, but the company guys and the company have not been," she said.

    The complaint is the latest against CACI, which has faced lawsuits since 2004. A previous class-action lawsuit was rejected by a court.


    More: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071218...rytorturecourt

    Keep your ears peeled. More to come on this issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This is a perfect example on how the left supports the troops.

    Claiming they are tortured is part of the terrroists training. They are instructed to claim this if they are captured - knowing libs like PB will run with the charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    This is a perfect example on how the left supports the troops.

    Claiming they are tortured is part of the terrroists training. They are instructed to claim this if they are captured - knowing libs like PB will run with the charge
    I still haven't figured out why we don't just shoot the SOB's.
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    Fire away, troby.

    Quote Originally Posted by trobinett View Post
    I still haven't figured out why we don't just shoot the SOB's.
    You or rsr can't compete in an intellectual debate, can you? Why aren't you wearing a uniform and in Iraq yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    You, bm, are a liar.

    The title of this thread indicates exactly the title of the linked article in conversation. I did not take it as antimilitary, a swipe or in any way unreasonable. If you care to comment on the article then go for it. If it is your intent to disparage me then you have radically missed your target and damaged your own feet. I don't for a moment imagine that you understand.
    That would be a negative PB. I pointed out the obvious and you simply cannot see it for your politics. You using what YOU viewed it as simply shows an unwillingness to consider any other pov than your own. It was not my intent to disparage but to point out the fallacy of your denial.

    Also consider this, those 250 are no different than those in prison all over the world who when asked will tell you that of course they are innocent.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Actually it is a positive, bm.


    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    That would be a negative PB. I pointed out the obvious and you simply cannot see it for your politics. You using what YOU viewed it as simply shows an unwillingness to consider any other pov than your own. It was not my intent to disparage but to point out the fallacy of your denial.

    Also consider this, those 250 are no different than those in prison all over the world who when asked will tell you that of course they are innocent.
    What is obvious is that you can't read. As Republicans go, what else is new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Fire away, troby.



    You or rsr can't compete in an intellectual debate, can you? Why aren't you wearing a uniform and in Iraq yourself?
    It is a fact the terrorists are trained to say they are "tortured" They know that libs like you will jump to their defense

    Terrorists are playing you for the fools that you are - but your hate for Pres Bush stops you from defending your country and makes you side with the terrorists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    The title of this thread indicates exactly the title of the linked article in conversation.
    There is a HUGE difference between:

    250 former Iraq detainees claim torture in new US lawsuit

    and

    250 Iraqi Detainees Claim Torture By US Forces

    They don't come remotely close to saying the same thing and your title doesn't accurately describe the gist of the article.

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