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    Default Dems Cut and Run From Surrender Date Again

    The Reid/Pelosi Congress surrendered to Pres Bush and did not inlclude their surrender date in the war funding bill

    By a 70 - 25 vote, Congress provided $70 billion for the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan

    Bur Dems did get their pork added to the bill - despite their promises to cut the pork




    Senate Approves $70 Billion War Funding for Iraq, Afghanistan
    Wednesday, December 19, 2007

    WASHINGTON — The Senate voted Tuesday to provide $70 billion for U.S. military efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, handing a victory to President Bush and his GOP allies on Capitol Hill.

    The 70-25 roll call paved the way for the Senate to pass a $555 billion omnibus appropriations bill combining the war funding with the budgets for 14 Cabinet agencies.

    Bush was ready to sign the bill, assuming the war funding clears the House on Wednesday. Democrats again failed to win votes to force removal of U.S. troops or set a nonbinding target to remove most troops by the end of next year.

    "Even those of us who have disagreed on this war have always agreed on one thing: Troops in the field will not be left without the resources they need," said Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

    The year-end budget deal between the Democratic-controlled Congress and Bush ended months of battling and disappointed GOP purists who complained the bill spends too much money and contains about 9,000 pet projects sought by members of Congress.

    "Congress refuses to rein in its wasteful spending or curb its corruption," said Rep. John Shadegg, R-Ariz. Conservatives estimated the measure contained at least $28 billion in domestic spending above Bush's budget, funded by a combination of "emergency" spending, transfers from the defense budget, budget gimmicks and phantom savings.

    With Bush winning the $70 billion infusion of troop funding, other Republicans muted their criticism.

    "I do think the president has a victory here," said House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo. But the win was hardly clear-cut for Republicans hoping the president would emerge from the monthslong battle with Democrats over the budget with a result that would more clearly demonstrate to core GOP voters the party's commitment to fiscal discipline.

    While disappointed by ceding Iraq funding to Bush, Democrats hailed the pending appropriations bill for smoothing the rough edges of Bush's February budget plan, which sought below-inflation increases for most domestic programs and contained numerous cutbacks and program eliminations.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317399,00.html

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    I watched CSPAN2 almost all day yesterday and watched the Dem's squirm... I wish the Repubs had forced themspelling to do the FISA bill before voting on the omnibus bill...

    When the omnibus bill goes to the House today the Dem's are relying on the Repubs to vote for the war funding... if I were the republican leader in the House I would tell all repubs to vote NO on the war funding so the Dems would be forced to vote yes to keep the omnibus alive... after all the Dems voted Yes on war funding then the Repubs could change their votes to yes... I would love to see the Dem's ringing their hands.

    Going to be fun watching the Dems shooting themselves in the foot today with the AMT vote they will take.
    Last edited by Classact; 12-19-2007 at 07:54 AM. Reason: spelling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classact View Post
    I watched CSPAN2 almost all day yesterday and watched the Dem's squirm... I wish the Repubs had forced then to do the FISA bill before voting on the omnibus bill...

    When the omnibus bill goes to the House today the Dem's are relying on the Repubs to vote for the war funding... if I were the republican leader in the House I would tell all repubs to vote NO on the war funding so the Dems would be forced to vote yes to keep the omnibus alive... after all the Dems voted Yes on war funding then the Repubs could change their votes to yes... I would love to see the Dem's ringing their hands.

    Going to be fun watching the Dems shooting themselves in the foot today with the AMT vote they will take.
    Dems have caved some many times and on so many issues. They played their base for suckers in 06 and it is comical to watch some libs actually defend the Dems

    It is not the Dems fault they stepped in multiple piles of shit - no - it is the evil republicans fault

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Dems have caved some many times and on so many issues. They played their base for suckers in 06 and it is comical to watch some libs actually defend the Dems

    It is not the Dems fault they stepped in multiple piles of shit - no - it is the evil republicans fault
    Check out this link http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7443.html
    Liberals lose bigtime in budget battle

    By: Martin Kady II and Ryan Grim
    Dec 17, 2007 07:34 PM EST


    This much is clear: Democrats in Congress buckled under pressure from the White House to hold spending near the administration’s specified limit, and they’re poised to give the president more war money with no strings attached.
    But the buckling didn’t stop there.
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    If the budget isn't approved, I'll get a few days off in February!
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    If the budget isn't approved, I'll get a few days off in February!
    OMG! That avatar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    If the budget isn't approved, I'll get a few days off in February!
    Looks like the Dems caved to pres Bush, and you will be working!

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    surrender bingo, aghanistan, china, north korea, iraq

    bingo!



    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Looks like the Dems caved to pres Bush, and you will be working!

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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    surrender bingo, aghanistan, china, north korea, iraq

    bingo!



    If Dems will not stand up to Pres Bush on what they believe in, how the hell will they stand up to the terrorists?

    They are even scared of Fox News

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    The Dems aren't the only ones that like their pork:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22342743/
    "The United States military could stay in Iraq, maybe 100 years, and that would be fine with me"

    John McCain

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJohn View Post
    The Dems aren't the only ones that like their pork:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22342743/
    I agree. But Dems promised they would cut the pork - but it is going up

    Dems have about 65% of the pork so far - and keep the books open

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    I agree. But Dems promised they would cut the pork - but it is going up

    Dems have about 65% of the pork so far - and keep the books open

    You're right. The dems will keep piling it on but I find it interesting that Bush only talks about their spending and doesn't address his own party's project.
    Just because the repubs have less, doesn't mean that their pork is OK.
    "The United States military could stay in Iraq, maybe 100 years, and that would be fine with me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJohn View Post
    You're right. The dems will keep piling it on but I find it interesting that Bush only talks about their spending and doesn't address his own party's project.
    Just because the repubs have less, doesn't mean that their pork is OK.
    and yet Dems say we need to fork over more of our money in higher taxes to reduce the deficit

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJohn View Post
    You're right. The dems will keep piling it on but I find it interesting that Bush only talks about their spending and doesn't address his own party's project.
    Just because the repubs have less, doesn't mean that their pork is OK.
    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    and yet Dems say we need to fork over more of our money in higher taxes to reduce the deficit

    Is there another way to cut the deficit?
    I certainly hope so.
    "The United States military could stay in Iraq, maybe 100 years, and that would be fine with me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJohn View Post
    Is there another way to cut the deficit?
    I certainly hope so.
    sure

    cut the pork and we would be damn close to a balanced budget

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