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    Default Obama's problem with white, male voters

    Now the Obamabots will pull out the race card to explain why their messiah, known as Obama is not winning over white males

    It will never occur to them the election is still tight because people see what an inexperienced tax and spend liberal Obama really is


    Obama's problem with white, male voters

    THE MOST remarkable fact of the 2008 presidential election is that it remains a close race. Democrats have not known such favorable political terrain since 1932, yet what should be a blowout is looking like a blanket finish.

    The fundamental reason is white men. Like Al Gore in the summer of 2000, Barack Obama is roughly splitting white women. But only 34 to 37 percent of white men support Obama, according to the Gallup Poll's latest weekly index of 6,000 voters.

    In fairness to Obama, he inherited the problem. Not since 1976, when Democrats last achieved a majority, has a Democrat won more than 38 of every 100 white, male voters. That Obama is nearly at par with Democrats' poor performance is hardly good.

    Obama remains narrowly ahead because of black, Hispanic, and youth support. Those strengths may prove brittle. Large black populations are mostly in states Obama will surely win, across the Northeast, and states he will surely lose, the Deep South. Hispanics are a nonfactor in Heartland swing states like Ohio. Young voters are notoriously unreliable.

    On Election Day, high youth and black turnout will matter in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Nevada. But as Hillary Clinton demonstrated, Obama's strengths may not matter enough.

    Obama's one clear gain with white men, over Gore and John Kerry, is with those under age 30. But those gains are undercut by a poor showing with older white men, according to Pew Research Center summer polling. The same effect, though more mild, is also true for white women.

    http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...e_male_voters/


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    RSR, do you live in a friggin cave? Lots of white men are racists and yes, the other issues you mention do affect voter's decisions. Again you do realize the republicans used the same tactics on McCain and guess what cave dweller - THEY WORKED. Ever wonder why.


    A vote for John McCain is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/op...02herbert.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    RSR, do you live in a friggin cave? Lots of white men are racists and yes, the other issues you mention do affect voter's decisions. Again you do realize the republicans used the same tactics on McCain and guess what cave dweller - THEY WORKED. Ever wonder why.


    A vote for John McCain is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/op...02herbert.html
    Funny when a black liberal loses, Dems whine about racism. However when a black conservative loses, Dems say the voters made the correct choice

    There is more racism on the left then on the right. Dems will never admit when they lose it was bacuase the voters rejected liberalism, No, Dems will scream how the election was stolen, the voters are stupid, or with their messiah, the voters are racists


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Funny when a black liberal loses, Dems whine about racism. However when a black conservative loses, Dems say the voters made the correct choice

    There is more racism on the left then on the right. Dems will never admit when they lose it was bacuase the voters rejected liberalism, No, Dems will scream how the election was stolen, the voters are stupid, or with their messiah, the voters are racists
    Then tell me why the republicans have used it against McCain and ever since LBJ lost the South? Explain please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Then tell me why the republicans have used it against McCain and ever since LBJ lost the South? Explain please.
    If you are talking about one kook group that said McCain fathered a black baby - it was a sick stupid thing to do

    With Obama, the liberal media across the board is saying if Obama loses, it is because America is a racist country

    "Reporters" ask Obama if he can overcome racism and win the election

    Big difference


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    If you are talking about one kook group that said McCain fathered a black baby - it was a sick stupid thing to do
    I asked you why? Answer the question. There is no difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I asked you why? Answer the question. There is no difference.
    and I said it was a sick and stupid thing to do

    One group doing it to Mccain VS the entire liberal media doing it to America is a BIG difference


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I asked you why? Answer the question. There is no difference.
    don't hold your breath. that guy is like the tarbaby.... you can ask him questions all night long for days and days on end and he will NEVER answer them. Never. That behavior is one of the reasons I gave up talking with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    don't hold your breath. that guy is like the tarbaby.... you can ask him questions all night long for days and days on end and he will NEVER answer them. Never. That behavior is one of the reasons I gave up talking with him.
    I did answer him. Liberal hacks llike you are playing the race card in a lame attempt to shame voters into voting for your guy

    Perhaps that is why you are waving the pom poms for the messiah - white liberal guilt


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    I don't like him, in part, because he doesn't seem to care that he's as much WHITE as he is black.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    I don't like him, in part, because he doesn't seem to care that he's as much WHITE as he is black.
    throughout American history, someone who was a "mulatto" was considered black... remember: Plessy was only 1/8th black.

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    I think it's just plain silly. If being black didn't seem to work in his favor, he'd claim to be a white guy I bet. Hell, I 'look' white, but I claim 'African American' on all my Racial documents/forms.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    I just don't think racism is the big factor in this ahem, contest. Sure there are bigots, from all groups. If there is a significant movement due to race, it's those voting in favor of Obama, not against him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I just don't think racism is the big factor in this ahem, contest. Sure there are bigots, from all groups. If there is a significant movement due to race, it's those voting in favor of Obama, not against him.
    No fair calling it like it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanuel View Post
    No fair calling it like it is.

    Immie
    I personally believe that many americans don't want to admit that they are still harbor racist feelings, and would never do so on any opinion poll, but will allow their true feelings to dictate their vote once behind the privacy of the curtain on the voting booth.



    And to suggest that blacks are going to vote for Obama simply because he is black is not accurate. If that were the case, why didn't Alan Keyes garner boatloads of support from blacks when HE was a republican presidential primary candidate? Blacks are voting for Obama because he is a solid democrat AND because he is black.

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