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    Default A refresher on Che Guevara

    Anyone who looks up to Che Guevara is truly ignorant. Or morally bankrupt and potentially dangerous.

    Che was an international terrorist and mass murderer.
    A Marxist with a Stalinist style of killing and brutality.
    A brutal, soulless, bloodthirsty opportunist, and ultimately a blubbering coward.
    Che was fanatical, dogmatic, spiteful, envious, arrogant, proud, a liar, racist, devoid of morals, mercenary and homophobic, a bloodthirsty murderer, “a cold killing machine”, that the fanaticism of the left has turned into a hero. -By Humberto (Bert) Corzo
    Yes, he was.


    In his early years growing up, he delighted in torturing small animals. Psychologists know that this is a sign of a sociopath, psychopath and sadist.

    Carlos Figueroa, a friend of Che's said of him:
    “I nicknamed him the Fast Rooster because he was eating in the dining room, and immediately, when the mucama (maid) enter the room he forced her to climb on the table to perform quick sex. After finished he got rid of the poor devil, and continued eating as if nothing had happened…” He used the women of lower social status as sex objects."[1]
    He set up Cuba's first labor camp.

    “This camp was the precursor to the eventual systematic confinement, starting in 1965 in the province of Camagüey, of dissidents, homosexuals, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such scum, under the banner of UMAP, Unidades Militares de Ayuda a la Producción, or Military Units to Help Production. Herded into buses and trucks, the “unfit” would be transported at gunpoint into concentration camps organized on the Guanahacabibes mold. Some would never return; others would be raped, beaten, or mutilated; and most would be traumatized for life, as Néstor Almendros's wrenching documentary Improper Conduct showed the world a couple of decades ago.”

    Che's homophobia is expressed in the poster placed at the entrance to the forced labor camp, where homosexuals were confined, which read: “The work will make you men”', replica of the slogan “The work will make you free” used in the Nazi concentration camps. It intended to correct the homosexual behavior applying rigorous punishments with the intention of modifying this social deviation, which does not constitute a crime punishable by law.
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    He neglected and abandoned his wives and family. No surprise there, since he didn't care about anyone but himself and power/glory.

    He personally executed many people without a trial from the fallen Batista regime.
    He murdered his own followers for the slightest hint of disloyalty.
    He even lined people up behind each other and shot through them to kill more than one person with one bullet.

    This man was a very sick individual.

    After he fled Cuba, he went to Bolivia and started up the same thing - pursuing violent Marxist revolution.
    When the Bolivian police captured him in October 1967, he cried and begged them not to shoot him.
    The cult of Ernesto Che Guevara is an episode in the moral callousness of our time. Che was a totalitarian. He achieved nothing but disaster. Many of the early leaders of the Cuban Revolution favored a democratic or democratic-socialist direction for the new Cuba. But Che was a mainstay of the hardline pro-Soviet faction, and his faction won. Che presided over the Cuban Revolution's first firing squads. He founded Cuba's "labor camp" system—the system that was eventually employed to incarcerate gays, dissidents, and AIDS victims. To get himself killed, and to get a lot of other people killed, was central to Che's imagination. In the famous essay in which he issued his ringing call for "two, three, many Viet Nams," he also spoke about martyrdom and managed to compose a number of chilling phrases: "Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become …"— and so on. He was killed in Bolivia in 1967, leading a guerrilla movement that had failed to enlist a single Bolivian peasant. And yet he succeeded in inspiring tens of thousands of middle class Latin-Americans to exit the universities and organize guerrilla insurgencies of their own. And these insurgencies likewise accomplished nothing, except to bring about the death of hundreds of thousands, and to set back the cause of Latin-American democracy—a tragedy on the hugest scale.

    The present-day cult of Che—the T-shirts, the bars, the posters—has succeeded in obscuring this dreadful reality.
    From Slate
    The truth about Che
    Posted on December 17th, 2009 by John Crowell

    A recovering liberal sees Ernesto “Che” Guevara through different eyes. For those who think Guevara is a hero, or are ambivalent to the potent threat of communism or the ubiquitous pictures of this murderer, you need to read this.

    Here’s a list of just a few of the humanitarian acts performed or sanctioned by the Left’s favorite pinup:

    * Killed dogs for sport as a child – a common trait in psychopaths
    * Imprisoned, forced into hard labor and tortured countless Cubans he considered enemies – including artists, dissidents, homosexuals and those in the wrong place at the wrong time
    * Ordered and/or presided over the summary executions of scores of suspected enemies, including pregnant women
    * Brutally murdered a teenage boy whose only crime was trying to prevent Che’s henchmen from killing his father

    But facts matter little in a world where image is everything. This explains why it’s Che on college walls and articles of clothing and not his revolutionary compadre, Fidel Castro. Che was a babe, with flashing eyes, an aquiline nose, and lips made for making out (if one didn’t mind all the torture and murder) Fidel, on the other hand, while a fiery speaker and brilliant strategist, lacked Che’s physical beauty and movie star charisma. Plus Che was dead, and as the result of a phony, public relations-generated resume that turned him into a symbol of gone-too-soon youthful idealism, was something Castro could never be: a martyr. Like James Dean, the ultimate dead movie star, Che is frozen beautifully in time.

    Before you dismiss this as irrelevant and yesterday’s news, America elected a lot of people in 2008 who have appointed many more people to key government posts who admire Guevara and believe as he did about socialism and communism.

    Over 100 documented persons personally murdered by Che


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    Links to some more info about Che:

    The Story of the Armored Train
    Che Guevara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    was he a muslim ?
    People show you and tell you who they are and you need to be listening and watching, not deciding that you know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abso View Post
    was he a muslim ?
    He was an Argentinian from a wealthy family. Well educated. Evil to the core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    He was an Argentinian from a wealthy family. Well educated. Evil to the core.
    but still you didn't answer my question, was he a muslim ?
    People show you and tell you who they are and you need to be listening and watching, not deciding that you know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abso View Post
    but still you didn't answer my question, was he a muslim ?
    I did answer. If you want a specific answer because you're playing handball here, then why bother? I don't do the gotcha stuff.


    It's a stupid question. What's your point.

    You obviously have a snarky smartass something or other in mind....get to it.

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    He imprisoned Jehova witnesses...How bad could he have been?

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    Does any of that really matter though? I mean -anything in the OP?
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Does any of that really matter though? I mean -anything in the OP?
    Yes. History always matters. We learn from it.

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    But I don't learn from Guevara...does anybody?
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    But I don't learn from Guevara...does anybody?
    Sure, his followers as pointed out in the OP. It's important stuff D.
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    Why the Hell should I have to press “1” for ENGLISH?

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    Not to me, particularly.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    But I don't learn from Guevara...does anybody?
    There's a lot to be learned from this.
    Ask yourself what kind or person is drawn to Marxism.

    What does socialism, Marxism, and communism do to an economy?

    To individual rights? To liberty?

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    maybe I don't care? I have never studied the mayans, yet I promise I'll never sacrifice another human to a 'god'. (shrug)
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    I did answer. If you want a specific answer because you're playing handball here, then why bother? I don't do the gotcha stuff.


    It's a stupid question. What's your point.

    You obviously have a snarky smartass something or other in mind....get to it.
    no you didn't answer my question at all, was asking a simple yes or no question, while you gave me some info i already knew, i have read books about him and i think i know enough about him.

    all i was trying to do is to prove a point, you could have helped me and answered a simple answer, you could have said no he is not a muslim, then you could have asked me about my point, that would have been alot easier and respectful.
    People show you and tell you who they are and you need to be listening and watching, not deciding that you know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    maybe I don't care? I have never studied the mayans, yet I promise I'll never sacrifice another human to a 'god'. (shrug)
    If you don't care, you're cheating yourself of knowledge and wisdom.

    AND if you don't care, move on and don't visit this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by abso View Post
    no you didn't answer my question at all, was asking a simple yes or no question, while you gave me some info i already knew, i have read books about him and i think i know enough about him.

    all i was trying to do is to prove a point, you could have helped me and answered a simple answer, you could have said no he is not a muslim, then you could have asked me about my point, that would have been alot easier and respectful.
    OF COURSE he was NOT a Muslim.

    What IS your point, other than to be pedantic?

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