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    Arrow Dangerous Democrats vs. the Free Market

    Dangerous Democrats vs. the Free Market




    By Herman Cain
    Monday, January 15, 2007



    The American public is about to once again witness the liberals’ total disdain for, and ignorance of, the dynamics of capitalism and our free market economic system. Liberals in the House have already passed legislation to increase the federal minimum wage three times over the next two years. They have clearly voiced their economy-killing positions on issues ranging from tax rate increases to dictating what companies should pay their employees.

    Since Franklin Roosevelt’s socialist New Deal policies, to Lyndon Johnson’s budget-busting Great Society, through Carter’s stagflation and Clinton’s largest tax increase in history, liberal Democrats never fail to cook up schemes that deny individuals their economic freedom and shackle our economy. That’s what they do.

    The liberals’ so-called new direction is in fact the same direction they always go when entrusted with the reins of power – backwards. The first sight in their targets is, as always, successful businesses and the specter of a nonexistent national income disparity.

    The new Democratic chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), wants the federal government to work on reducing income inequality. He will no doubt conduct numerous hearings and eventually initiate legislation that starts us down a slippery slope toward capping executive salaries and compensation. Liberals want us out of their bedrooms, but cannot wait to get into corporate boardrooms.

    The only obstacles facing liberals are the facts. CNSNews.com reported on January 5 that Frank plans to focus his hearings on: “Why the top income earners are making so much more than lower earners and what the government can do about it.” Yet a Census Bureau study commissioned by the Congress’s own Joint Economic Committee found that from 2001 to 2005 there was “virtually no statistical change in income inequality.”

    Rep. Frank appeared January 4 on “Your World with Neil Cavuto” to make his case for increased government oversight of corporate compensation. He argued, “I think we should let the owners of the companies decide what the CEO pay should be, and that’s the shareholders.” Earth to Congressman Frank, they already do! Corporate directors are elected by the shareholders and represent the shareholders. And in every corporate structure I am aware of there are corporate governance rules for nominating directors and changing directors if the shareholders are not happy with their decisions.

    Congressman Frank added, “What we need to do is step in and amend the law because in some states where corporate law is set, shareholders who want to have a vote can’t get one. What I propose is that we should pass a law giving the shareholders a right to vote on these issues.” Most corporations are not structured that way, and if you can find some that are then shareholders can take their money somewhere else. Again, the facts and common sense are not on his side.

    New statistics from the December 2006 jobs report provide additional facts that will surely annoy liberals. U.S. employers added 167,000 jobs last month, and the jobs figures for October and November 2006 were revised upward by 29,000 jobs. Additionally, the unemployment rate stood at 4.5 percent. Richard Moody, an analyst for real estate firm Mission Residential, stated in a January 5 Wall Street Journal story: “Perhaps the most noteworthy number in the December employment report is the 0.5% increase in average hourly earnings…December's increase in average hourly earnings reflects an over-the-year increase of 4.2 percent and, with the recent moderation in energy prices, workers’ wages are now running above inflation.” Now where is that economy that only benefits the rich?

    Liberal whining over phantom inequality and a discriminatory economy will only increase when President Bush sends Congress his budget on February 5. Anything short of a 100 percent tax rate proposal on individuals and businesses will elicit liberal cries of budget cuts for children, veterans, the elderly, birds, bees and funding to teach children the birds and bees in government schools.

    The Democratic leaders are expectedly claiming their victory is a mandate for any government-enforced tax, regulatory and spending idea they can concoct. Their true goal is to claim just enough populist and class warfare-driven victories to help ensure that they maintain control of Congress, and enhance the chances of electing a Democratic president in 2008.

    Liberals are not only ignoring the facts, they are ignoring the threatened future of this country, and individual initiative and responsibility in order to achieve their not-so-new objective of an even bigger, inefficient and intrusive federal government.

    Wake up America! The United States of America. Danger lies ahead!

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/H...he_free_market

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    I rescued this before it dropped off to the other page, PR.



    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    Dangerous Democrats vs. the Free Market




    By Herman Cain
    Monday, January 15, 2007



    The American public is about to once again witness the liberals’ total disdain for, and ignorance of, the dynamics of capitalism and our free market economic system. Liberals in the House have already passed legislation to increase the federal minimum wage three times over the next two years. They have clearly voiced their economy-killing positions on issues ranging from tax rate increases to dictating what companies should pay their employees.

    Since Franklin Roosevelt’s socialist New Deal policies, to Lyndon Johnson’s budget-busting Great Society, through Carter’s stagflation and Clinton’s largest tax increase in history, liberal Democrats never fail to cook up schemes that deny individuals their economic freedom and shackle our economy. That’s what they do.

    The liberals’ so-called new direction is in fact the same direction they always go when entrusted with the reins of power – backwards. The first sight in their targets is, as always, successful businesses and the specter of a nonexistent national income disparity.

    The new Democratic chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), wants the federal government to work on reducing income inequality. He will no doubt conduct numerous hearings and eventually initiate legislation that starts us down a slippery slope toward capping executive salaries and compensation. Liberals want us out of their bedrooms, but cannot wait to get into corporate boardrooms.

    The only obstacles facing liberals are the facts. CNSNews.com reported on January 5 that Frank plans to focus his hearings on: “Why the top income earners are making so much more than lower earners and what the government can do about it.” Yet a Census Bureau study commissioned by the Congress’s own Joint Economic Committee found that from 2001 to 2005 there was “virtually no statistical change in income inequality.”

    Rep. Frank appeared January 4 on “Your World with Neil Cavuto” to make his case for increased government oversight of corporate compensation. He argued, “I think we should let the owners of the companies decide what the CEO pay should be, and that’s the shareholders.” Earth to Congressman Frank, they already do! Corporate directors are elected by the shareholders and represent the shareholders. And in every corporate structure I am aware of there are corporate governance rules for nominating directors and changing directors if the shareholders are not happy with their decisions.

    Congressman Frank added, “What we need to do is step in and amend the law because in some states where corporate law is set, shareholders who want to have a vote can’t get one. What I propose is that we should pass a law giving the shareholders a right to vote on these issues.” Most corporations are not structured that way, and if you can find some that are then shareholders can take their money somewhere else. Again, the facts and common sense are not on his side.

    New statistics from the December 2006 jobs report provide additional facts that will surely annoy liberals. U.S. employers added 167,000 jobs last month, and the jobs figures for October and November 2006 were revised upward by 29,000 jobs. Additionally, the unemployment rate stood at 4.5 percent. Richard Moody, an analyst for real estate firm Mission Residential, stated in a January 5 Wall Street Journal story: “Perhaps the most noteworthy number in the December employment report is the 0.5% increase in average hourly earnings…December's increase in average hourly earnings reflects an over-the-year increase of 4.2 percent and, with the recent moderation in energy prices, workers’ wages are now running above inflation.” Now where is that economy that only benefits the rich?

    Liberal whining over phantom inequality and a discriminatory economy will only increase when President Bush sends Congress his budget on February 5. Anything short of a 100 percent tax rate proposal on individuals and businesses will elicit liberal cries of budget cuts for children, veterans, the elderly, birds, bees and funding to teach children the birds and bees in government schools.

    The Democratic leaders are expectedly claiming their victory is a mandate for any government-enforced tax, regulatory and spending idea they can concoct. Their true goal is to claim just enough populist and class warfare-driven victories to help ensure that they maintain control of Congress, and enhance the chances of electing a Democratic president in 2008.

    Liberals are not only ignoring the facts, they are ignoring the threatened future of this country, and individual initiative and responsibility in order to achieve their not-so-new objective of an even bigger, inefficient and intrusive federal government.

    Wake up America! The United States of America. Danger lies ahead!

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/H...he_free_market
    This partisan shit ain't nothing but partisan shit and that is why it sank on the front page to otherwise oblivian until I rescued it..

    Dig it or dig out, PR. Your neg reps are noted and counted. Are you simply ignorant or are you really that stupid?

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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    I rescued this before it dropped off to the other page, PR.





    This partisan shit ain't nothing but partisan shit and that is why it sank on the front page to otherwise oblivian until I rescued it..

    Dig it or dig out, PR. Your neg reps are noted and counted. Are you simply ignorant or are you really that stupid?
    If its nothing but crap then you can refute it cant you?

    Ever think no one responded cause no one had any problems with it?

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    I didn't take it that way, a'4321.


    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    If its nothing but crap then you can refute it cant you?

    Ever think no one responded cause no one had any problems with it?
    I think the DP populace ignored it because it was bullshit and they knew it. You got support or refutation? That was my objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    I didn't take it that way, a'4321.




    I think the DP populace ignored it because it was bullshit and they knew it. You got support or refutation? That was my objective.
    What the heck have you refuted in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues
    This partisan shit ain't nothing but partisan shit and that is why it sank on the front page to otherwise oblivian until I rescued it..
    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues
    Are you simply ignorant or are you really that stupid?
    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    What the heck have you refuted in it?
    This is how most of the board liberals "refute" something avatar. With vile, caustic, frothing at the mouth, gutter talk. No substance, just trash talk.

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    The writer is living in a fantasyland. There is no free market. All economies are managed.
    "Unbloodybreakable" DCI Gene Hunt, 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    The writer is living in a fantasyland. There is no free market. All economies are managed.
    It's a free market, though, in that businesses keep their profits, consumers have the right to choose what they purchase and what they do not, producers have the right to choose what they will produce, and everybody has the right to own property. That's a free market. A few regulations can actually make it more free, as a total lack of rules isn't freedom, it's anarchy.
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    Name one thing the government does better than the private sector and I'll show you something that requires the use of force to accomplish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    The writer is living in a fantasyland. There is no free market. All economies are managed.
    BINGO, we have a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit View Post
    It's a free market, though, in that businesses keep their profits, consumers have the right to choose what they purchase and what they do not, producers have the right to choose what they will produce, and everybody has the right to own property. That's a free market. A few regulations can actually make it more free, as a total lack of rules isn't freedom, it's anarchy.
    Yeah right.

    Our markets are about as free as the wolds richest could ever allow them to be.

    Lobbyists, sleeping your way to the top, subsidies, tax subsidies, government contracts, Patents, copyrights, nepotism, cronyism, idealism, racism, sexism, monopolies, nationalism, national laws all conspire to remove any fragment at all of freedom from the marketplace.

    If anything was missed that retains a shard of freedom in the free market please contact your local corporate monopolist and a way will be engineered to remove that last scrap of freedom from the market as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    Yeah right.

    Our markets are about as free as the wolds richest could ever allow them to be.

    Lobbyists, sleeping your way to the top, subsidies, tax subsidies, government contracts, Patents, copyrights, nepotism, cronyism, idealism, racism, sexism, monopolies, nationalism, national laws all conspire to remove any fragment at all of freedom from the marketplace.

    If anything was missed that retains a shard of freedom in the free market please contact your local corporate monopolist and a way will be engineered to remove that last scrap of freedom from the market as well.
    I think the point you make that our economy is being manipulated further proves it's a free economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    I think the point you make that our economy is being manipulated further proves it's a free economy.
    Free economy? The only reason any regulations exist is that if capitalism - or corporatism more like - was totally untrammelled thing would be even worse. It would be dog eat dog all the way. At least now it's only dog snarling and attacking dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Free economy? The only reason any regulations exist is that if capitalism - or corporatism more like - was totally untrammelled thing would be even worse. It would be dog eat dog all the way. At least now it's only dog snarling and attacking dog.
    Exactly.

    American-style capitalism is an outrage. Our laws permit exploitation of workers and protect the capitalists who exploit them. Bad as they are, however, they could be worse. They slight protection they offer is better than nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Exactly.

    American-style capitalism is an outrage. Our laws permit exploitation of workers and protect the capitalists who exploit them. Bad as they are, however, they could be worse. They slight protection they offer is better than nothing.
    And any protection was established by unions, not handed down by the noble capitalists. Hell the bastards fought unions with their thugs. But they smartened up. They know if they toss a few crumbs it'll protect them. They also know if they control the media, all arms of government, the education system and other forms of social control that people will believe the bullshit that's fed to them about the wonders of the free market and how everyone can get rich if only they tried hard enough
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