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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrymc View Post
    Ok help me understand, the state is a separate entity from the People of said state? the state has its own agenda separate from the people?
    Does the federal government have a different agenda than a good portion of the citizens of the nation? The states are similar, just smaller. History has shown people will support the feds trampling over the rights of states, so states need their own 'representation', so the system is balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrymc View Post
    Ok help me understand, the state is a separate entity from the People of said state? the state has its own agenda separate from the people?
    Yes, the state/legislature has different roles/responsibilities than the people. For example the Federal government wants to impose an unfunded mandate (Obamacare) on the state, the people may want said legislation because they think they're getting something but the legislature might have no way to fund said mandate. The Senators may vote on the law differently depending on whom they need to depend for reelection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Larrymc View Post

    States don't have representatives in Congress?
    No, not at least as designed... [/URL]
    Each state has two Senators. They are to represent the individual state's business as well as that of the state's citizens. Yet you are right in that once elected they seem to represent only Federal and Washington interests. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The Senate is both a more deliberative and more prestigious body than the House of Representatives because of it's longer terms, smaller size, and statewide constituencies, which historically led to a more collegial and less partisan atmosphere. The Senate is sometimes called the "world's greatest deliberative body."--Wiki source .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Does the federal government have a different agenda than a good portion of the citizens of the nation? The states are similar, just smaller. History has shown people will support the feds trampling over the rights of states, so states need their own 'representation', so the system is balanced.
    I don't claim to be a Political Scholar,so bear with me, I understand the problem with the federal Government meddling in the states affairs, but other than the Congressmen and State Seniors, for each state what do we need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrymc View Post
    I don't claim to be a Political Scholar,so bear with me, I understand the problem with the federal Government meddling in the states affairs, but other than the Congressmen and State Seniors, for each state what do we need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    A populous that considers issues rather than party.
    Well were in deep on that one.
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    If the state governors appointed the senators as it use to be, we would have a majority of republicans in the senate and we wouldn't be in the shit hole we are now.
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