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    Default 2 Turkish Fighter Jets Shoot Down Russian War Plane

    Warned 10 times in 5 minutes before they attacked. Russia claiming it just 'crashed' according to CNN tv coverage:

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    Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border

    Kareem Shaheen in Beirut and Shaun Walker in Moscow
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    Nato-member Turkey has shot down a Russian warplane in the first time the alliance and Moscow have come to blows directly over the crisis in Syria.

    Ankara and Moscow gave conflicting accounts of the incident, which appears to have occurred in an area near the Turkish-Syrian border straddling Iskenderun and Latakia.


    The Turkish military said it scrambled two F-16 fighter jets after a plane penetrated Turkish airspace in the province of Hatay at 9.20am on Tuesday morning, warning it to leave 10 times in five minutes before it was shot down.


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    </aside>It was unclear if the plane was shot down by the fighter jets or by ground-based defence systems.


    Russia’s defence ministry, in a series of tweets, confirmed a Russian SU-24 had been shot down, but insisted the plane had never left Syrian airspace.


    “At all times, the SU-24 was exclusively over the territory of Syria,” the defence ministry said. “The SU-24 was at 6000 metres and preliminary information suggests it was brought down by fire from the ground. The circumstances are being investigated.”


    The ministry said preliminary information suggested that the pilots managed to successfully eject from the plane. The Turkish network CNN Turk said that one of the pilots had been captured by local Turkmen tribesmen in the area.


    The area near where the plane was shot down is the site of ongoing clashes between forces loyal to the embattled Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, and rebels fighting to overthrow him. Russia launched a military intervention in October aimed at protecting the areas in western Syria still under control by the regime after nearly five years of civil war. The northern Latakia countryside has seen repeated aerial assaults by both the Russian and Syrian air forces.

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    Couple of questions come to mind:

    Was NATO/US advised prior?

    Obama desperate for Hollande not to push against sanctions in place on Russia due to Crimea-Hollande heading for meeting with Putin, after meeting with Obama. Guess which one is the strong dog?


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    Dang I guess those super duper jets my little Russian buddy keeps posting about, well they may be in the future he means.
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    The SU-24 Fencer is an interesting beast... it features a swing-wing like our old F-111, F-14 and B1. Looks like the Russians are down to 11 of those in Syria now. Initially it was able to go over Mach 2 and reach 57,000 feet, but they deleted the variable intakes for weight & maintenance reasons and now it tops out at Mach 1.3 and 36,000 feet.

    This is also what the Israelis shot down last year over the Golan Heights... the Syrians have a few of them.

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    "Today's tragic event will have serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations," Putin warned."




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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
    "Today's tragic event will have serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations," Putin warned."

    Myself, I believe the Turks just ffed up big time. We shall see.
    Interesting to see how other leaders act like leaders while the scum obama acts like a craven coward unless its attacking us and weakening our nation!!!!!
    By now only morons/simpletons and blinded sheep would not see what the traitorous bastard is IMHO.-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Myself, I believe the Turks just ffed up big time. We shall see.
    Interesting to see how other leaders act like leaders while the scum obama acts like a craven coward unless its attacking us and weakening our nation!!!!!
    By now only morons/simpletons and blinded sheep would not see what the traitorous bastard is IMHO.-Tyr
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    Turkish terror state will regret this.
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    FSA= Terrorist islamist scum gloat over the dead body of a Russian pilot...

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    Christie, I agree that filming is wrong. Question though, are you Russian, I wonder because I'd assumed you are British.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Christie, I agree that filming is wrong. Question though, are you Russian, I wonder because I'd assumed you are British.
    I am British... can't I be against the terrorist sponsor Turkey? Can't I condemn the killing of pilots trying to wipe the Islamist scum off the earth? Do I only have to be Russian for that?
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    Good, let them kill one another off. Of course I hope ISIS gets eradicated first...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    I am British... can't I be against the terrorist sponsor Turkey? Can't I condemn the killing of pilots trying to wipe the Islamist scum off the earth? Do I only have to be Russian for that?
    Wasn't implying any of that. It was a question based upon reading many of your posts, just got around to asking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Wasn't implying any of that. It was a question based upon reading many of your posts, just got around to asking.
    I think Christie is related to Putin. I've never seen someone defend and support another country before while never even touching their own. We'll never know of course, but I'm betting a Russian living in the UK. Either way, I couldn't give a damn. I just find it funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I think Christie is related to Putin. I've never seen someone defend and support another country before while never even touching their own. We'll never know of course, but I'm betting a Russian living in the UK. Either way, I couldn't give a damn. I just find it funny.
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