old news: TSA "constitutionally" searching cars

[Gunny]

THAT i can understand Gunny.
I meant no offense. the TSA and not in the same league as ANY brach of the military. period.

I was just making ONE point.
5th string bench sitters farm team drinking all the water are still "on the team" but everyone knows who the real big league players are Gunny. Here's my point, if the Real players see the farm team bench sitters committing fouls getting on the field when they shouldn't, causing "the team" to lose then the real players ought to say something directly too the 5th stringers. Not get mad at the ticket buying team fans who are yelling at them to STAY OFF The field.

That 5th seat is still a player, right? What are you going to do without him?

I'm not going to argue with you about the TSA. They ain't even close to 5th seat. Just don't compare us to them. They couldn't lace our boots.

[revelarts]

PROVEN: TSA HIRES MURDERERS, RAPISTS, THIEVES

...But the TSA screeners patting you down and combing through your belongings don’t have federal law-enforcement training, may earn about as much as a McDonald’s shift manager and are not required to possess a high-school diploma or GED. In fact, they might even be criminals.
If recent news reports are any indication, many Americans can’t even trust that TSA’s screeners won’t steal their laptops, money or jewelry. What does it take to work for the TSA?
In May 2012, Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., released a report titled, “‘Not on My Watch’: 50 Failures of TSA’s Transportation Security Officers.”
“While in the last decade TSA has employed many dedicated public servants who truly have a deep desire to serve our country, they have also hired an alarming number of individuals who in many cases would never have passed a simple background check,” Blackburn’s report stated. “This problem has only exacerbated itself since 2005 when TSA administratively reclassified airport security screeners as Transportation Security Officers. To make matters worse, TSA upgraded TSOs uniforms to reflect those of federal law enforcement officers, complete with metal officer badges. Despite their new title of officer, TSOs receive zero federal law enforcement training and … many TSOs have displayed little respect for the titles they hold and the uniforms they wear.”
A recent search of job postings revealed the Transportation Security Officer positions come with a salary as low as $29,131 per year and are open to U.S. citizens and U.S. nationals.....

....The most common offenses in the report included theft of money and laptops and trafficking child pornography.
One agent allegedly wore his uniform and displayed a badge before sexually assaulting a woman before fleeing on foot. Another TSA agent was arrested for kidnapping a woman and sexually assaulting her. At least four of the agents in the report were arrested for sexually assaulting young girls. One agent wore her uniform while she sold heroin near a local elementary school. Two agents were arrested for illegally carrying guns into airports.
More recently, TSA screeners made headlines when they were accused of traumatizing a disabled toddler in a wheelchair.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/proven-ts...ro8p193hPBC.99

[Gunny]

PROVEN: TSA HIRES MURDERERS, RAPISTS, THIEVES

...But the TSA screeners patting you down and combing through your belongings don’t have federal law-enforcement training, may earn about as much as a McDonald’s shift manager and are not required to possess a high-school diploma or GED. In fact, they might even be criminals.
If recent news reports are any indication, many Americans can’t even trust that TSA’s screeners won’t steal their laptops, money or jewelry. What does it take to work for the TSA?
In May 2012, Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., released a report titled, “‘Not on My Watch’: 50 Failures of TSA’s Transportation Security Officers.”
“While in the last decade TSA has employed many dedicated public servants who truly have a deep desire to serve our country, they have also hired an alarming number of individuals who in many cases would never have passed a simple background check,” Blackburn’s report stated. “This problem has only exacerbated itself since 2005 when TSA administratively reclassified airport security screeners as Transportation Security Officers. To make matters worse, TSA upgraded TSOs uniforms to reflect those of federal law enforcement officers, complete with metal officer badges. Despite their new title of officer, TSOs receive zero federal law enforcement training and … many TSOs have displayed little respect for the titles they hold and the uniforms they wear.”
A recent search of job postings revealed the Transportation Security Officer positions come with a salary as low as $29,131 per year and are open to U.S. citizens and U.S. nationals.....

....The most common offenses in the report included theft of money and laptops and trafficking child pornography.
One agent allegedly wore his uniform and displayed a badge before sexually assaulting a woman before fleeing on foot. Another TSA agent was arrested for kidnapping a woman and sexually assaulting her. At least four of the agents in the report were arrested for sexually assaulting young girls. One agent wore her uniform while she sold heroin near a local elementary school. Two agents were arrested for illegally carrying guns into airports.
More recently, TSA screeners made headlines when they were accused of traumatizing a disabled toddler in a wheelchair.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/proven-ts...ro8p193hPBC.99

You're preaching to the choir. I can get through San Antonio International Airport with a tube of toothpaste only to have it confiscated in Nowhereville, IL. What? I'm going to brush your teeth to death? Gee, THAT won't take long. In the meantime I have an 8" blade in my bag.

[hjmick]

From the OP:

WHEC 10 News’s Berkeley Brean reported that “The TSA says that this is part of its overall security plan, in that its a proactive move to keep you and your family safe at the airport. “

“The attendants told me that its kind of a three-phase thing, they’re ordered to search the trunk, the engine, and scan the inside of the car,” Brean continued. “They say it takes about 30 seconds to do it. They say that they don’t go through your console or your glove boxes. The TSA says that they’re instructing these valet attendants to look for large amounts of explosive material.”"

So, it's NOT TSA doing the searches, it's the attendants. Either way, without my knowledge, my consent, or a search warrant I'm not okay with any of it. In some states, your car is considered an extension of your home and as such falls under the Castle doctrine. Last time I checked, in Texas keeping a concealed firearm in your vehicle was legal. Now I will grant you that leaving a gun in your car and leaving your car in long or short term parking at the airport isn't the brightest thing you can do, but I imagine that it happens. When these uneducated (come on, they're parking lot attendants), untrained (come on, a few instructions from the TSA doesn't constitute training), underpaid (come on, they park cars for a living) monkeys (come on, that's not a racial slur in this instance, I have no idea what color they are) find a gun, what do they do? I'm sorry, but would you let the Dominos guy search your house on behalf of an official governmental agency? Without a warrant? Without cause? And yes, it's the same thing.


There is no reason anyone should happily accept this sort of thing. Overall, the TSA has been a bust, a waste of money, and an inconvenience to travelers nationwide. In fifteen years has there been a single instance where any of these searches prevented or turned up anything? Christ, what makes any of you advocates for this bullshit think the government, the very same government that couldn't stop Ft Hood, San Bernardino, or Florida (after having the guy on a list and interviewing him three times), using PARKING ATTENDANTS, is going to stop a damn thing? Is the violation of your rights really worth it?





"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

[Kathianne]

From the OP:




So, it's NOT TSA doing the searches, it's the attendants. Either way, without my knowledge, my consent, or a search warrant I'm not okay with any of it. In some states, your car is considered an extension of your home and as such falls under the Castle doctrine. Last time I checked, in Texas keeping a concealed firearm in your vehicle was legal. Now I will grant you that leaving a gun in your car and leaving your car in long or short term parking at the airport isn't the brightest thing you can do, but I imagine that it happens. When these uneducated (come on, they're parking lot attendants), untrained (come on, a few instructions from the TSA doesn't constitute training), underpaid (come on, they park cars for a living) monkeys (come on, that's not a racial slur in this instance, I have no idea what color they are) find a gun, what do they do? I'm sorry, but would you let the Dominos guy search your house on behalf of an official governmental agency? Without a warrant? Without cause? And yes, it's the same thing.


There is no reason anyone should happily accept this sort of thing. Overall, the TSA has been a bust, a waste of money, and an inconvenience to travelers nationwide. In fifteen years has there been a single instance where any of these searches prevented or turned up anything? Christ, what makes any of you advocates for this bullshit think the government, the very same government that couldn't stop Ft Hood, San Bernardino, or Florida (after having the guy on a list and interviewing him three times), using PARKING ATTENDANTS, is going to stop a damn thing? Is the violation of your rights really worth it?





"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Wow, you said what I've been thinking all day. I wouldn't care if they had dogs trained to sniff for explosives walking through parking, drop off areas, etc.

[hjmick]

Wow, you said what I've been thinking all day. I wouldn't care if they had dogs trained to sniff for explosives walking through parking, drop off areas, etc.

With dogs, there's no reason to break in and search, AND THE DOGS ARE TRAINED!

[revelarts]

With dogs, there's no reason to break in and search, AND THE DOGS ARE TRAINED!

mice/rats are even better than dogs. plus no radiation or touching.

...AFP reports that BioExplorers, a firm based in the town of Herzliya, on the country’s central coast, are using mice’s keen sense of smell to detect drugs, explosives and other suspect items at docks, border crossings and airports. A traveler enters a booth, where he is hit with a draft of air that is sucked into an opaque enclosure housing eight mice. Within eight seconds, rodents sniff the air for potentially hazardous materials; a cleared individual can leave the area upon seeing a green light. If the tiny agents smell any suspicious scents, however, they send off an alert by congregating in a different compartment...

Sniffer mice are being trained in Israel to detect explosives at airportswww.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/sniffer-...Proxy HighlightJun 13, 2015 ... As the cat-and-mouse tussle with terrorists intensifies, rodents could be enlisted to keep the skies safe. An Israeli security firm claims that mice ...
'Sniffer Mice' trained to find explosives could replace dogs as ...www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2232249/Sniff...Proxy HighlightNov 13, 2012 ... An Israeli security company has trained the rodents to alert guards when they detect explosives, drugs or other contraband.
'Sniffer Mice' Used To Detect Bombs And Drugs - Sky Newsnews.sky.com/story/sniffer-mice-used-to-detect-bombs-...Proxy HighlightJul 6, 2016 ... Forget about sniffer dogs - if an Israeli firm has its way mice will be at ... Teams of highly trained mice could be used to sniff out explosives and ...
In Cambodia, Rats Are Being Trained To Sniff Out Land Mines And ...www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/07/31/427112786/i...Proxy HighlightJul 31, 2015 ... But their sense of smell is extraordinary. The rats can detect the presence of TNT in amounts starting at 29 grams (about 1 ounce). After a few ...Sniffer mice have a nose for explosives | New Scientisthttps://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20927985-700-s...Proxy HighlightFeb 2, 2011 ... Crack teams of mice housed in walk-through scanners are being trained to detect would-be bombers.

The TSA's 95 Percent Failure Rate | True News

Published on Jun 3, 2015
Recently, the Department of Homeland Security decided to test the effectiveness of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) by conducting a series of undercover tests. The results were quite shocking.
Investigators were able to smuggle mock explosive and banned weapons in 67 out of 70 attempts. That's a failure rate of 95 percent!
In one of the tests, for example, an investigator with a fake bomb attached to his back set off an alarm but was allowed to pass through after a pat-down. What if this wasn't a test?

[Gunny]

From the OP:




So, it's NOT TSA doing the searches, it's the attendants. Either way, without my knowledge, my consent, or a search warrant I'm not okay with any of it. In some states, your car is considered an extension of your home and as such falls under the Castle doctrine. Last time I checked, in Texas keeping a concealed firearm in your vehicle was legal. Now I will grant you that leaving a gun in your car and leaving your car in long or short term parking at the airport isn't the brightest thing you can do, but I imagine that it happens. When these uneducated (come on, they're parking lot attendants), untrained (come on, a few instructions from the TSA doesn't constitute training), underpaid (come on, they park cars for a living) monkeys (come on, that's not a racial slur in this instance, I have no idea what color they are) find a gun, what do they do? I'm sorry, but would you let the Dominos guy search your house on behalf of an official governmental agency? Without a warrant? Without cause? And yes, it's the same thing.


There is no reason anyone should happily accept this sort of thing. Overall, the TSA has been a bust, a waste of money, and an inconvenience to travelers nationwide. In fifteen years has there been a single instance where any of these searches prevented or turned up anything? Christ, what makes any of you advocates for this bullshit think the government, the very same government that couldn't stop Ft Hood, San Bernardino, or Florida (after having the guy on a list and interviewing him three times), using PARKING ATTENDANTS, is going to stop a damn thing? Is the violation of your rights really worth it?





"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin.