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    Remember her avatar said something about "vote Trump, get Hillary" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Remember her avatar said something about "vote Trump, get Hillary" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Promising grandiose things is a lot easier than actually doing them.

    My guess is that Trump will actually accomplish very few of the things he wants to do. There will be no wall, no massive deportation, no registry, no change in abortion rights.
    The primary reason is that Trump is only one person. Congress is controlled by Republicans, but they all worry about keeping their seats and appeasing lobbyists.

    Trump won't even fulfill his promise to "drain the swamp." He has already indicated his plans to refill the swamp with lobbyists and special interest groups of his own choosing.

    Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    Well, Gabby, you're assuming that Drumpf and the GOP won't find some pretense to suspend future elections. I'm betting they will. If they can't find one, they make one up.
    Fascism has come to America, wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. His name is Trump.
    War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. - George Orwell...The New GOP motto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <woNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <wontGrowAutofit/> <w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/> <w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/> <wontFlipMirrorIndents/> <w:OverrideTableStyleHps/> </w:Compatibility> <m:mathPr> <m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/> <m:brkBin m:val="before"/> <m:brkBinSub m:val="--"/> <m:smallFrac m:val="off"/> <m:dispDef/> <m:lMargin m:val="0"/> <m:rMargin m:val="0"/> <m:defJc m:val="centerGroup"/> <m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/> <m:intLim m:val="subSup"/> <m:naryLim m:val="undOvr"/> </m:mathPr></w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> During the course of Donald Trump’s campaign, his slogan was to “Make America great again”. Now this campaign slogan was long on generality and real short on specifics, so let’s look at the promises Donald Trump made as part of his plan to “Make America Great Again”.

    The Great Mexican Wall
    To keep Mexican from streaming over the border to pillage and plunder low wage jobs with no benefits and questionable working conditions in this country, Donald wants to build a wall. A wall spanning the length of the US/Mexican border. A border about twenty miles short of 2,000 miles. Now the last time anyone tried to build a wall this long it took a few centuries and the slave labor of millions of Chinese. Now Donald realized, if dimly, that it was technically and logistically impossible to build a wall the whole length of the US/Mexican border and amended the plan to a wall only 1,000 miles long, thanks to “natural barriers”. But, that is equally infeasible, even if he could force Mexico to pay for it. As to how this would “Make America Great Again”, well, it wouldn’t. It would only bankrupt the US, after all, it wouldn’t do to raise taxes on himself and his oligarch buddies to pay for this boondoggle, so Grammie and Gramps would be eating cheap dog food because Social Security and Medicare are gutted in a vain effort to pay for the Great Wall of Mexico. And the rest of us, well, we’d be reduced to serfdom. So, now Donald’s Great Wall of Mexico is reduced to about 200 miles of chain-link fence and razor wire. That’ll “Make America Great Again”.

    Repealing the Affordable Care Act
    How would stripping nearly 20 million people of their health insurance “Make America Great Again”? The short answer is that it wouldn’t. All it would do is throw these people off insurance. They would, once again be dependent on emergency departments for their primary care. Now to put that in perspective, an uncomplicated emergency department visit costs around $600 to $1000 depending on where you live. A visit to a doctor’s office costs about $60 to $100. You do the math. But these folks won’t be having an uncomplicated visit to the ED. They will arrive sicker be admitted with longer, more complicated hospital stays, higher mortality and morbidity, and much higher costs than if they’d been able to get access to affordable healthcare. You know like the ACA has tried, imperfectly to provide. Oh, and don’t forget, if you have a pre-existing condition, well you’re not gonna get coverage at any price. The net result is that insurance premiums, copays and deductibles will spiral out of control, forcing even MORE people into the ranks of the uninsured. And since the brunt of these costs are borne by not-for-profit hospitals, many will likely be forced to close their doors as they can no longer absorb the costs, rendering safe healthcare an even more limited commodity. This means that only the wealthy can afford medical can without being pauperized. So, will repealing the Affordable Care Act “Make America Great Again”? In a word, no.

    Creating a Registry for Muslims
    So, some of the more rabid Islamophobes in Donald’s inner circle want to create a “registry” for Muslim Americans. Now, as history has shown us, this leads to a very slippery slope indeed. You start with a “registry”, but then a requirement for pinning a yellow crescent and star on one’s clothing is enacted. But wait, it’ll be easier to segregate Muslims into ghettos where they can be closely monitored. Internment camps will be even better as Muslims can be entirely isolated from the rest of the population. What would the final solution be? Would this “Make America Great Again”? No, history shows nothing but grief and horror to be the result.

    Trying to Cure “the Gay”
    How will criminalizing the LGBT community “Make America Great Again”? It won’t. I mean except to show what great homophobes folks like Mike Pence…yes, Trump’s VP…are and how they are firmly convinced that “conversion” therapy is real, and works. Especially with the liberal application of electrical shocks to the brains of those afflicted with “the gay”. Will this “Make America Great Again”? No. The only ones that need fixing are the homophobes and closet queens in the GOP and their religious right wing-nut base through lots and lots of psychotherapy. That means YOU Mike Pence.

    Repealing Dodd-Frank
    Repealing Dodd-Frank will NOT “Make America Great Again”. Dodd-Frank is the only thing standing between working Americans and another nuclear melt-down of the American and, potentially, the world economy is Dodd-Frank. A bill signed into law in 2010 after the 2008 recession. A recession caused by the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act and its replacement by the Graham-Leach-Bliley act in 1999. These barriers had existed since the 1930’s and had provided an unprecedented security and stability the American and world financial markets. But with their removal, the stage was set for the meltdown of the US housing market. Bill Clinton’s willful participation in the passage of Graham-Leach Bliley into law, the transformation of the Democratic party into GOP Lite was complete. So, if you think repealing Dodd-Frank will “Make America Great Again”, think again. It will result in the wealthiest Americas laughing all the way to the bank while everyone who works for a living is left holding the bag, penniless and in soup lines. Trump’s economic populism ended on November 8th.

    The Resurgence of White Nationalism and Racism
    This weekend, the “Alt-right” held a conference in Washington. Now we need to perfectly clear, “Alt-right” is simply a polite euphemism…a “rebranding” …if you will, of white nationalism, racism and neo-Nazism. These racists and anti-Semites have found a hero in Donald Trump. Trump’s history has been one of racism and his rhetoric, from the beginning of his campaign, has been racist. First attacking Mexicans, and Hispanics in general, then moving on to other minorities and Muslims. Between November 8th and November 14th, the Southern Poverty Law Center “has reported that there were four hundred and thirty-seven incidents of intimidation… targeting blacks and other people of color, Muslims, immigrants, the L.G.B.T. community, and women.” (Okeowo, 2016). And then we have Trump appointing Breitbart CEO, racist, anti-Semite and misogynist, Steve Bannon, as his “strategist”, Jeff Sessions is his pick for AG, Mike Flynn for DHS and Mike Pompeo for DCIA, all meeting the approval of David Duke, former imperial wizard of the KKK. And this week-end, we saw the spectacle of white-supremacists screaming “Hail Trump” with a stiff right arm in the stereotypical Nazi salute. The US Holocaust Memorial Museum felt compelled to issue a statement on this white nationalist conference, stating that “The Holocaust did not begin with killing; it began with words” and for “all American citizens, our religious and civic leaders, and the leadership of all branches of government to confront racist thinking and divisive hateful speech” ("DW-US Holocaust Museum," 2016). Yet we hear no disavowal of this movement by Trump, and only limp-wristed, Milquetoast denouncements by his surrogates. The silence from the GOP leadership in the House and Senate is equally deafening, their silence being equated with assent. This will not “Make America Great Again”.

    Conclusion
    I could go on, for hundreds of pages. But if you haven’t gotten the point by now that Trump’s promise to “Make America Great Again” is as empty as the hard vacuum of interstellar space, you’re not going to. And that is because you prefer to remain willfully ignorant. Trump will not “Make America Great Again”. He will, instead, turn America into a pariah state, loot the treasury for the benefit of himself and his sycophants, and grind everyone who works for a living into serfdom.

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    Dean, J. (2016, May 16). Trump’s Wall: Impractical, Impolitic, Impossible. Newsweek. Retrieved from http://www.newsweek.com/trump-wall-i...ossible-459802
    Geewax, M. (2016). Trump Team Promises to ’Dismantle’ Dodd-Frank Bank Regulations. Retrieved from http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...nk-regulations
    Goldstein, J. (2016, November 20). Alt-Right Exults in Donald Trump’s Election With a Salute: ‘Heil Victory’. The New York Times. Retrieved from http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us...ald-trump.html
    Kirsch, R. (2016). Is Trump ready to face consequences of repealing ObamaCare? Retrieved from http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...ling-obamacare
    Michaelson, J. (2016). A Trump-Pence Presidency Would Be a Disaster for LGBT People. Retrieved from http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...bt-people.html
    Muaddi, N. (2016). The Bush-era Muslim registry failed. Yet the US could be trying it again. Retrieved from http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/politi...abase-qa-trnd/
    Okeowo, A. (2016, November 17). Hate on the Rise After Trump’s Election. The New Yorker. Retrieved from http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...rumps-election
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    You are, without any doubt, a blinded moron that exists without the sense God gave a goose..
    For Trump is pretty much anti-obama and thus you must think that the obama is some kind of genius, hero and great leader..
    And that makes you a doofus on the very top tier IMHO..
    YOU ARE ONE SICK PUPPY...
    Worthy only to be firewood IMHO.-TYR
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    Well, Gabby, you're assuming that Drumpf and the GOP won't find some pretense to suspend future elections. I'm betting they will. If they can't find one, they make one up.
    He will suspend them. He will set fire to the US Capitol and blame the Muslims. Then take absolute power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    Conclusion
    I could go on, for hundreds of pages. But if you haven’t gotten the point by now that Trump’s promise to “Make America Great Again” is as empty as the hard vacuum of interstellar space, you’re not going to. And that is because you prefer to remain willfully ignorant. Trump will not “Make America Great Again”. He will, instead, turn America into a pariah state, loot the treasury for the benefit of himself and his sycophants, and grind everyone who works for a living into serfdom.
    Some will help, some will not. Hyperbole is no way to make an argument.

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    Well, Gabby, you're assuming that Drumpf and the GOP won't find some pretense to suspend future elections. I'm betting they will. If they can't find one, they make one up.
    Now you sound exactly like some of the righties did not so long ago and some of the lefties did 8 years before that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <woNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <wontGrowAutofit/> <w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/> <w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/> <wontFlipMirrorIndents/> <w:OverrideTableStyleHps/> </w:Compatibility> <m:mathPr> <m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/> <m:brkBin m:val="before"/> <m:brkBinSub m:val="--"/> <m:smallFrac m:val="off"/> <m:dispDef/> <m:lMargin m:val="0"/> <m:rMargin m:val="0"/> <m:defJc m:val="centerGroup"/> <m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/> <m:intLim m:val="subSup"/> <m:naryLim m:val="undOvr"/> </m:mathPr></w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> During the course of Donald Trump’s campaign, his slogan was to “Make America great again”. Now this campaign slogan was long on generality and real short on specifics, so let’s look at the promises Donald Trump made as part of his plan to “Make America Great Again”.

    The Great Mexican Wall
    To keep Mexican from streaming over the border to pillage and plunder low wage jobs with no benefits and questionable working conditions in this country, Donald wants to build a wall. A wall spanning the length of the US/Mexican border. A border about twenty miles short of 2,000 miles. Now the last time anyone tried to build a wall this long it took a few centuries and the slave labor of millions of Chinese. Now Donald realized, if dimly, that it was technically and logistically impossible to build a wall the whole length of the US/Mexican border and amended the plan to a wall only 1,000 miles long, thanks to “natural barriers”. But, that is equally infeasible, even if he could force Mexico to pay for it. As to how this would “Make America Great Again”, well, it wouldn’t. It would only bankrupt the US, after all, it wouldn’t do to raise taxes on himself and his oligarch buddies to pay for this boondoggle, so Grammie and Gramps would be eating cheap dog food because Social Security and Medicare are gutted in a vain effort to pay for the Great Wall of Mexico. And the rest of us, well, we’d be reduced to serfdom. So, now Donald’s Great Wall of Mexico is reduced to about 200 miles of chain-link fence and razor wire. That’ll “Make America Great Again”.

    Repealing the Affordable Care Act
    How would stripping nearly 20 million people of their health insurance “Make America Great Again”? The short answer is that it wouldn’t. All it would do is throw these people off insurance. They would, once again be dependent on emergency departments for their primary care. Now to put that in perspective, an uncomplicated emergency department visit costs around $600 to $1000 depending on where you live. A visit to a doctor’s office costs about $60 to $100. You do the math. But these folks won’t be having an uncomplicated visit to the ED. They will arrive sicker be admitted with longer, more complicated hospital stays, higher mortality and morbidity, and much higher costs than if they’d been able to get access to affordable healthcare. You know like the ACA has tried, imperfectly to provide. Oh, and don’t forget, if you have a pre-existing condition, well you’re not gonna get coverage at any price. The net result is that insurance premiums, copays and deductibles will spiral out of control, forcing even MORE people into the ranks of the uninsured. And since the brunt of these costs are borne by not-for-profit hospitals, many will likely be forced to close their doors as they can no longer absorb the costs, rendering safe healthcare an even more limited commodity. This means that only the wealthy can afford medical can without being pauperized. So, will repealing the Affordable Care Act “Make America Great Again”? In a word, no.

    Creating a Registry for Muslims
    So, some of the more rabid Islamophobes in Donald’s inner circle want to create a “registry” for Muslim Americans. Now, as history has shown us, this leads to a very slippery slope indeed. You start with a “registry”, but then a requirement for pinning a yellow crescent and star on one’s clothing is enacted. But wait, it’ll be easier to segregate Muslims into ghettos where they can be closely monitored. Internment camps will be even better as Muslims can be entirely isolated from the rest of the population. What would the final solution be? Would this “Make America Great Again”? No, history shows nothing but grief and horror to be the result.

    Trying to Cure “the Gay”
    How will criminalizing the LGBT community “Make America Great Again”? It won’t. I mean except to show what great homophobes folks like Mike Pence…yes, Trump’s VP…are and how they are firmly convinced that “conversion” therapy is real, and works. Especially with the liberal application of electrical shocks to the brains of those afflicted with “the gay”. Will this “Make America Great Again”? No. The only ones that need fixing are the homophobes and closet queens in the GOP and their religious right wing-nut base through lots and lots of psychotherapy. That means YOU Mike Pence.

    Repealing Dodd-Frank
    Repealing Dodd-Frank will NOT “Make America Great Again”. Dodd-Frank is the only thing standing between working Americans and another nuclear melt-down of the American and, potentially, the world economy is Dodd-Frank. A bill signed into law in 2010 after the 2008 recession. A recession caused by the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act and its replacement by the Graham-Leach-Bliley act in 1999. These barriers had existed since the 1930’s and had provided an unprecedented security and stability the American and world financial markets. But with their removal, the stage was set for the meltdown of the US housing market. Bill Clinton’s willful participation in the passage of Graham-Leach Bliley into law, the transformation of the Democratic party into GOP Lite was complete. So, if you think repealing Dodd-Frank will “Make America Great Again”, think again. It will result in the wealthiest Americas laughing all the way to the bank while everyone who works for a living is left holding the bag, penniless and in soup lines. Trump’s economic populism ended on November 8th.

    The Resurgence of White Nationalism and Racism
    This weekend, the “Alt-right” held a conference in Washington. Now we need to perfectly clear, “Alt-right” is simply a polite euphemism…a “rebranding” …if you will, of white nationalism, racism and neo-Nazism. These racists and anti-Semites have found a hero in Donald Trump. Trump’s history has been one of racism and his rhetoric, from the beginning of his campaign, has been racist. First attacking Mexicans, and Hispanics in general, then moving on to other minorities and Muslims. Between November 8th and November 14th, the Southern Poverty Law Center “has reported that there were four hundred and thirty-seven incidents of intimidation… targeting blacks and other people of color, Muslims, immigrants, the L.G.B.T. community, and women.” (Okeowo, 2016). And then we have Trump appointing Breitbart CEO, racist, anti-Semite and misogynist, Steve Bannon, as his “strategist”, Jeff Sessions is his pick for AG, Mike Flynn for DHS and Mike Pompeo for DCIA, all meeting the approval of David Duke, former imperial wizard of the KKK. And this week-end, we saw the spectacle of white-supremacists screaming “Hail Trump” with a stiff right arm in the stereotypical Nazi salute. The US Holocaust Memorial Museum felt compelled to issue a statement on this white nationalist conference, stating that “The Holocaust did not begin with killing; it began with words” and for “all American citizens, our religious and civic leaders, and the leadership of all branches of government to confront racist thinking and divisive hateful speech” ("DW-US Holocaust Museum," 2016). Yet we hear no disavowal of this movement by Trump, and only limp-wristed, Milquetoast denouncements by his surrogates. The silence from the GOP leadership in the House and Senate is equally deafening, their silence being equated with assent. This will not “Make America Great Again”.

    Conclusion
    I could go on, for hundreds of pages. But if you haven’t gotten the point by now that Trump’s promise to “Make America Great Again” is as empty as the hard vacuum of interstellar space, you’re not going to. And that is because you prefer to remain willfully ignorant. Trump will not “Make America Great Again”. He will, instead, turn America into a pariah state, loot the treasury for the benefit of himself and his sycophants, and grind everyone who works for a living into serfdom.

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    Dean, J. (2016, May 16). Trump’s Wall: Impractical, Impolitic, Impossible. Newsweek. Retrieved from http://www.newsweek.com/trump-wall-i...ossible-459802
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    So tell me, Bully - WHY did you not complain about a single executive order from Obama, while crying daily about them while GWB was in office? Why have you been asked this question for about 8 years now and you refuse to answer? Never mind, we all know the answer to both of these questions!

    As to your above whine fest - thank you SO much for posting this. Now I know for sure just how many tears were and are flowing in the 'pulpit' household!! I love the above things. Sucks, ain't it? Looks like you'll just have to take a back seat ride and watch us for the next few years!

    This is me, towards you:

    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    Well, Gabby, you're assuming that Drumpf and the GOP won't find some pretense to suspend future elections. I'm betting they will. If they can't find one, they make one up.
    WHO is trying to steal an election? You're dumber than I thought if you can say that with a straight face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    So tell me, Bully - WHY did you not complain about a single executive order from Obama, while crying daily about them while GWB was in office? Why have you been asked this question for about 8 years now and you refuse to answer? Never mind, we all know the answer to both of these questions!

    As to your above whine fest - thank you SO much for posting this. Now I know for sure just how many tears were and are flowing in the 'pulpit' household!! I love the above things. Sucks, ain't it? Looks like you'll just have to take a back seat ride and watch us for the next few years!

    This is me, towards you:

    I think bully's finally snapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I think bully's finally snapped.
    Ummmm.... finally?
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Ummmm.... finally?
    Yeah. He used to try to at least sound sane. Sounds like he's in a cold sweat, plastic visor on and Clark Kent's hunched about 2" from his monitor now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    So tell me, Bully - WHY did you not complain about a single executive order from Obama, while crying daily about them while GWB was in office? Why have you been asked this question for about 8 years now and you refuse to answer? Never mind, we all know the answer to both of these questions!

    As to your above whine fest - thank you SO much for posting this. Now I know for sure just how many tears were and are flowing in the 'pulpit' household!! I love the above things. Sucks, ain't it? Looks like you'll just have to take a back seat ride and watch us for the next few years!


    What about them? Obama issued fewer executive orders than any POTUS since Grover Cleveland, and for better reason than Bush ever did. You're sounding like a broken record Jimmy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post


    What about them? Obama issued fewer executive orders than any POTUS since Grover Cleveland, and for better reason than Bush ever did. You're sounding like a broken record Jimmy.
    So since there were less, that made them acceptable? I thought you had an issue with them, not how many. LAME HYPOCRITE.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    During the course of Donald Trump’s campaign, his slogan was to “Make America great again”. Now this campaign slogan was long on generality and real short on specifics, so let’s look at the promises Donald Trump made as part of his plan to “Make America Great Again”.

    Repealing the Affordable Care Act

    How would stripping nearly 20 million people of their health insurance “Make America Great Again”?


    Creating a Registry for Muslims

    So, some of the more rabid Islamophobes in Donald’s inner circle want to create a “registry” for Muslim Americans.

    I'm going to cherry-pick just two or your items to be refuted, because I find them especially ridiculous:


    The Affordable Care Act - Saying that the ACA has insured 20 million people who were previously uninsured is the inflated figure arrived at by Obama's administration trying to tell us how great they are. Here's some of the things they did to arrive at that grossly exaggerated number:

    - Uninsured illegal immigrants were counted in the pre-ACA figures, but not in the ACA figures, making the ACA figures appear to have insured a bunch of immigrants
    - They counted millions of people forced onto Medicaid or aging into Medicaid, as being part of ACA.
    - They counted people signed up for ACA as newly insured even if they had had an employer plan the previous year.
    - They counted people forced onto ACA because of tax penalties as newly insured, even if they were young and healthy and didn't actually want the insurance in the first place.
    - They counted people who signed up for ACA at the beginning of the year, but who were dropped later because the people weren't paying their premiums. People dropped later for non-payment are actually "uninsured".

    If you get rid of all these tricks used to inflate the numbers, ACA is probably only helping 2 to 3 million people. And what is the cost? There are probably 5 million people in ACA now that previously had very good health care plans for $300-$600 per month, that now have to pay $1500-$2000 per month for plans with $15,000 deductibles. I consider a $15,000 deductible to be virtually the same as NO coverage. So the ACA helped 2-3 million go from no coverage to some coverage, at the expense of making 5 million go from some coverage to no coverage (and paying heavily to have that no coverage).

    And the ACA hasn't even finished unraveling yet! If it were left in place, it would collapse from its own incompetence within a few years. Let's face it, Obama create Obamacare to be a statue of himself, not to achieve anything.


    Registry for Muslims - Nobody in Trump's administration ever said there would be a registry for Muslims. Just a possible database of immigrants from terror countries like Iran, sometimes called "vetting". The "Muslim Registry" is just the HuffPost taking sentence fragments out of context, so that gullible and willing people like you can make frivolous snipes against Trump. Copy and pasting drivel from the HuffPost is something to be embarrassed about.
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