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    Default Brazilians: Flap shows Americans 'full of prejudice'

    SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- In a joke that made Brazilians cringe and forced the U.S. Olympic Committee to apologize, a USOC worker scrawled "Welcome to the Congo!" on a board in the organization's Rio de Janeiro media center for the Pan American Games.

    Rio's O Globo newspaper published a photo of the message on its front page Saturday, and ran a headline saying the joke was "full of prejudice." The message was condemned in a nation extremely sensitive about being compared to less-developed countries, especially by Americans -- who often are perceived as arrogant by Brazilians.

    The controversy occurred as American athletes arrived in Latin America's largest country to compete in the event that starts Friday.

    The USOC issued a "deep apology to the people of Brazil and Rio de Janeiro" in a statement Saturday, and said the worker who wrote the phrase was disciplined and is no longer a member of the U.S. delegation to the games.

    USOC officials also apologized in person to Rio Mayor Cesar Maia, senior officials of the Brazilian Olympic Committee and the Pan American Sports Organization. The USOC statement did not name the employee.

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    I don't see what the big deal is, that wasn't really bad. They are just trying to get attention on their country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- In a joke that made Brazilians cringe and forced the U.S. Olympic Committee to apologize, a USOC worker scrawled "Welcome to the Congo!" on a board in the organization's Rio de Janeiro media center for the Pan American Games.

    Rio's O Globo newspaper published a photo of the message on its front page Saturday, and ran a headline saying the joke was "full of prejudice." The message was condemned in a nation extremely sensitive about being compared to less-developed countries, especially by Americans -- who often are perceived as arrogant by Brazilians.
    The controversy occurred as American athletes arrived in Latin America's largest country to compete in the event that starts Friday.

    The USOC issued a "deep apology to the people of Brazil and Rio de Janeiro" in a statement Saturday, and said the worker who wrote the phrase was disciplined and is no longer a member of the U.S. delegation to the games.

    USOC officials also apologized in person to Rio Mayor Cesar Maia, senior officials of the Brazilian Olympic Committee and the Pan American Sports Organization. The USOC statement did not name the employee.

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    I don't see what the big deal is, that wasn't really bad. They are just trying to get attention on their country.
    I bolded this part because I see so much hypocrisy in it.

    You see they are allowed to say "all Americans are arrogant", Yet we cant say they are one step up from a thrid world country.

    I just love how the rest of the world does this. No matter what country it is they talk about the evils of the American people and yet bitch to high heaven if we comment on them....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    I bolded this part because I see so much hypocrisy in it.

    You see they are allowed to say "all Americans are arrogant", Yet we cant say they are one step up from a thrid world country.

    I just love how the rest of the world does this. No matter what country it is they talk about the evils of the American people and yet bitch to high heaven if we comment on them....
    I didn't notice that until you brought that up, thank's for showing that. IMO they are all hipocrits.

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    i dont see how anything said is full of prejudice. seems pretty accurate to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    i dont see how anything said is full of prejudice. seems pretty accurate to me.
    Given that such a high percentage of Brazilians are from Africa, it does sound accurate. Also, Brazil is one to talk... it's a more "color-conscious" society than most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Lincoln View Post
    Given that such a high percentage of Brazilians are from Africa, it does sound accurate. Also, Brazil is one to talk... it's a more "color-conscious" society than most.
    :Here's the funny thing about all of these "Latin" countries. Every last one of them is steeped in colorism. Much more so than any other area of the globe. In the Dominican Republic alone there are over 30 different "shades" of black. Depending on where you fall will determine your station in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
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    I don't see what the big deal is, that wasn't really bad. They are just trying to get attention on their country.
    WTF are these little brown-skins whining about now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    I bolded this part because I see so much hypocrisy in it.

    You see they are allowed to say "all Americans are arrogant", Yet we cant say they are one step up from a thrid world country.

    I just love how the rest of the world does this. No matter what country it is they talk about the evils of the American people and yet bitch to high heaven if we comment on them....
    nukeman: While I see this as the action of one thoughtless American, and not representative of all Americans, I don't thnk we should reflexively go on the defensive when someone from another country criticizes us.

    We Americans are far from perfect. Don't you agree?

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    It seems that none of you are able to grasp the concept of "tact." Apparently, as I understand it, when you insult people they become unhappy with you. Just an f.y.i.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    nukeman: While I see this as the action of one thoughtless American, and not representative of all Americans, I don't thnk we should reflexively go on the defensive when someone from another country criticizes us.

    We Americans are far from perfect. Don't you agree?
    Ohh dont get me wrong I agree we aren't perfect.

    However I must take a certain amount of offense when "most" other countries lump "most" Americans in the "Ugly American" catagory. The problem as I see it the rest of the world expects the US to above repraoch and yet they can insult and belittle every little thing we do.

    Other countries have FAR MORE racism and classism (sp) than anywhere in the US. They just refuse to admit it or even acknowledge it, yet they are the first to take offense at something one of our citizens do and in turn blame all of Americans.

    I know I'm on a little bit of a rant here but this is one of those things that really eats at me. I mean it takes a lot of gall to point a finger at the US and say all 300 million of you are, I quote from the article, "who often are perceived as arrogant by Brazilians."

    I gusess what I'm saying is dont lump all Americans in the same boat and we won't lump all of them in the same boat.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    It seems that none of you are able to grasp the concept of "tact." Apparently, as I understand it, when you insult people they become unhappy with you. Just an f.y.i.
    How about the insult that is put upon the US everyday. Are we supposed to be the only country that is to use "tact". If so why??

    Ohh F.Y.I. I think most here understand tact it is just so tiring to always be the country that has to use it and not get any in return....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    How about the insult that is put upon the US everyday. Are we supposed to be the only country that is to use "tact". If so why??

    Ohh F.Y.I. I think most here understand tact it is just so tiring to always be the country that has to use it and not get any in return....
    Well, somebody's got to be "the bigger man" as they say. I'd prefer if it were us. Ever heard the phrase "lead by example?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Well, somebody's got to be "the bigger man" as they say. I'd prefer if it were us. Ever heard the phrase "lead by example?"
    When we do lead by example we are called, and I quote the Brazilians "who often are perceived as arrogant by Brazilians."

    It gets very tiresome to always be the worlds whipping boy. I for one get very very tired of being told your arrogant, your selfish, you dont help enough, you help too much, you medle, why dont you intervene.....etc...etc...

    I could go on and on but I think you get the idea.

    No matter what the US does its never enough or enough already (come help us after our disaster.... now get the fuck out....) the rest of the world needs to rely on themselves for a change IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    When we do lead by example we are called, and I quote the Brazilians "who often are perceived as arrogant by Brazilians."

    It gets very tiresome to always be the worlds whipping boy. I for one get very very tired of being told your arrogant, your selfish, you dont help enough, you help too much, you medle, why dont you intervene.....etc...etc...

    I could go on and on but I think you get the idea.

    No matter what the US does its never enough or enough already (come help us after our disaster.... now get the fuck out....) the rest of the world needs to rely on themselves for a change IMO
    Being bitter and ill-tempered has never solved any problems for anybody. I prefer to retain my cockeyed optimism--the stuff Americans are supposed to be known for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Being bitter and ill-tempered has never solved any problems for anybody. I prefer to retain my cockeyed optimism--the stuff Americans are supposed to be known for.
    I'm far from "bitter" and I'm not really ill temperd. I dont think the world is crashing down around us and I think that ultimately the US will always be here in some form to help the rest of the world.

    I just sometimes wish they would acknowledge what we do. Is to much to ask for the occasional "Thank You" without the stipulations thrown in...

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