Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
in personal relations absolutely.

in politics, mmm, sometimes the guns come out.


or help create it.

The left is trying to convert everyone. It's very mission minded. and does not tolerate heretics.
I think we should be at least as honest and fervent in trying to create people who agree with us at a deep level as well.
But FAR more tolerant.

but hey maybe that's out of line.
That would be the point to this entire discussion? A plan to reform government from the ground up necessitates reforming society from the ground up as well. It requires aware people to participate in order for it to work.

You base selling that goal without riders/earmarks/whatever you wish to call duplicitous motives; especially arguably one of the most controversial, individual topics there is. Success in reforming society, regaining control of government and freedoms surrendered for protection brings with it freedom of religion. the above bolded statement of your allows none.