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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    So you think that a protectionist and isolationist policy is bestfor the opportunities and standard of living for the average citizen? What year are you living in, 1917?
    I think immigration needs to be drastically reduced to a level such that wages are not suppressed too far too quickly. Borders have naturally functioned to serve this purpose all throughout human history. It's only recently that this internationalist notion that regular people deserve no protections, not even those historically valued ones such as border enforcement, has become prevalant and popular. The border does protect. Yes.

    I'm an icon because I realize that this is a global economy and that America's and by proxy the people's standard of living is derived from capitalism and no shackles should be placed upon capitalism.
    Capitalism should operate within the greater moral framework. We should not legitimize slave labor by allowing it as a resource on the international market. Think of it as kiddie porn. That's capitalism too.


    Now with that being said America has prospered, the citizenry have become advanced and higly educated, they desire high paying technological jobs in our advanced society yet there still remains a labor segment to our economy and Americans simply are not lining up for these jobs.
    But even tech skills and white collar training do not protect us from globalization. This is the flaw your argument relies on. Even those jobs are being sourced away from america, based on the same logic you use. When americans are being gouged on everything, we simply cannot take the low wages they pay indian or chinese developers. These disparities in the global economy are a strategic manipulation to drive americans out of the global workforce, by corporations who do not have our interests at heart.



    I realize that these jobs are stil vital and the economies that are based upon this labor are also vital to America's continued power and prosperity. We have already in country a workforce willing to pitch in and get these jobs done but they are not citizens and currently not contributing financially into the system unless of course you count the taxes they pay on gas, sales etc. etc. so it only makes sense to grant them a path to citizenship and start collecting from them.

    I care about America's continued prosperity, why don't you?
    It makes more sense to kick them out, say no to globalism, and insist that americans maintain all skills at all levels of the income spectrum, and not allow manipulated "market forces" to make us dependant and unemployed.
    Last edited by TheSage; 01-28-2007 at 11:55 AM.

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