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    Default 'Jihadi John' named ...

    Congrats to the Washington Post for pinning down the identity of this vermin !!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...6ee_story.html

    LONDON — The world knows him as “Jihadi John,” the masked man with a British accent who has beheaded several hostages held by the Islamic State and who taunts audiences in videos circulated widely online.

    But his real name, according to friends and others familiar with his case, is Mohammed Emwazi, a Briton from a well-to-do family who grew up in West London and graduated from college with a degree in computer programming. He is believed to have traveled to Syria around 2012 and to have later joined the Islamic State, the group whose barbarity he has come to symbolize.
    Identifying this scum will hopefully facilitate the process of its extermination.

    This has been the most prominent news item in the British press today (.. along with more revelations about Jimmy Savile's predatory behaviour, but never mind that now ..).

    What you won't know is how this has all currently developed here in the UK. Here, a London radio station called 'LBC' (London Broadcasting .. now available to listen to on various mediums, including the Internet) .. chose, during one of its many phone-in programmes, to carry - live - a 'press conference' featuring a spokesman from 'CAGE', a so-called human rights organisation with prime interest in Islamic affairs. So, the spokesperson gave his speech to assembled journalists.

    He asserted that he knew Emwazi, had done for many years. He claimed Emwazi was a good man, a 'very kind' personality, who had been mistreated by our security services, to the point where he and others like him had become alienated against the society they were living in (though he also expressed a doubt that the Washington Post had correctly identified Emwazi ..).

    What it all boiled down to was a performance which painted Emwazi as a victim of alienation by British authorities, who'd turned to Jihadism because it offered something he could identify with which was otherwise absent from his life. Pure propaganda siding with Emwazi.

    It was LBC's intention to broadcast the entire thing live. They broke off from doing so after around 10 minutes, though, after the true propagandist nature of what was being advanced became clear. The LBC presenter spent the next 40 or so minutes diverting on to other matters.

    She took just 2 calls before her programme ended. Each caller said they were boiling mad at what they'd heard. The presenter waiting in the wings .. Iain Dale .. devoted much of his own programme to an anti-'CAGE' discussion.

    This is a revealing piece on 'CAGE' ...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ist-group.html

    Last week, Peter Oborne penned a love letter to "independent advocacy organisation" Cage (formerly Cage Prisoners). Oborne spoke out because, earlier this year, after Cage’s outreach director Moazzam Begg was arrested in relation to Syria-linked offences, Cage had their bank accounts closed and their assets frozen. An investigation has been launched by the Charity Commission into some of Cage’s donors. Oborne calls this investigation "alien to the way we do things in Britain". Yet if he believes it is the investigations into Cage – rather than Cage’s actions – that are "alien to the way we do things in Britain", then we would argue he has a radically different definition of Britishness to most British people.

    Oborne gushes that Cage had "done more than any other [group] to stand up for alleged terrorists". However, what he does not seem to realise is that Cage does not just "stand up for alleged terrorists". It also stands up for actual, convicted terrorists.

    For example, Cage is animated about the case of Aafia Siddiqui, jailed for 86 years in the US for attempting to murder US officials in Afghanistan and assaulting those who tried to stop her. Siddiqui had wide-ranging links to al-Qaeda and was married to a key plotter behind the 9/11 attacks. At the beginning of her trial she said that jurors should be "subject to genetic testing" to see if they were Zionist or Israeli. She is no terror suspect – her guilt was proved in a court of law. Yet Cage’s profile on Siddiqui – which misses literally all this out – says it has "dedicated itself" to freeing her.

    Others that Cage support include Djamel Beghal, who, following allegations of a plot to blow up the US embassy in Paris, was jailed in France in 2005 for "belonging to a criminal association in relation to preparing an act of terrorism"; and Nizar Trabelsi, convicted in Belgium as part of an al-Qaeda plot to carry out a suicide attack against a military base there holding US soldiers.

    Cage has also given sympathetic hearings (to say the least) to Abu Hamza who has been convicted in the UK of offences which include soliciting to murder and inciting racial hatred and has now also been convicted in the US on 11 terrorism charges. When Babar Ahmad pleaded guilty to terrorism charges in a US court late last year, Begg was quick to pronounce that we had to be "careful" of seeing this blatant admission of guilt "as an admission of guilt".

    Oborne is slightly less supportive of Anwar al-Awlaki, the al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula cleric who Cage had invited to speak on multiple occasions. Yet even this is couched in weasel language by saying Cage have always denied Awlaki was a "key member" of AQAP. This is nonsense for any number of reasons, not least the fact that the documents gained from Osama bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound showed AQAP emir Nasir al-Wuhayshi was willing to concede leadership of the group to Awlaki; and that Awlaki played a key role in AQAP attacks against the West, especially in Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s underwear bomb plot of 2009. There is plenty of other evidence out there showing that Awlaki was a key part of AQAP.

    Oborne says that unless the entire organisation can be prosecuted, Cage should "be left alone". But in any case, if everyone had taken that attitude then, among other things, terrorists like Awlaki would certainly have spoken at Cage’s events. It was only because some of us raised protests at the time that he was stopped from doing so. We wonder whether, next time a young Brit tries to bring down an aeroplane from the sky or blow up a commuter train because Awlaki or some other Cage hero told them so, Oborne will continue to maintain that it was a good thing that Cage’s interpretation of "British values" was upheld.

    All the evidence shows that Cage is a pro-terrorist group, not a human rights group as Oborne appears to think.
    This article is several months old. But, such has been our media's enthusiasm for politically correct 'even-handedness', that LBC happily gave CAGE its on-air platform today, and so soon after the Washington Post's revelation. And got something far worse than they'd bargained for ...
    Last edited by Drummond; 02-26-2015 at 01:58 PM.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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