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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Great story - let me find you the one about the man in the U.K. who couldn’t be stopped when he went on a bloody-gun rampage because our civs didn’t have guns -...
    ... And, Noir, let me tell YOU about knife crime, especially in London. What great 'answer' to it does Sadiq Khan have (1st Muslim London Mayor, backed by Labour) .. ?

    He just tells us that it may take TEN YEARS to bring under control.

    Do people have guns to fend off knife-toting thugs with ? NO. They're not allowed them, except under very exceptional circumstances (living in a high knife crime area doesn't count). Trouble is, too, that criminals don't obey laws if they don't feel like it ... so if anyone (except one of those few policemen allowed to) is going to have and use one, it'll be a criminal.

    Deterrence ? Self defence ? Do draconian gun laws allow any such thing ??

    Where was the deterrence factor, for example, when a machete wielding maniac BEHEADED his victim, in a neighbourhood I once lived just minutes' walk away from ... ?

    -- This one, in fact .... >>

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...on-garden.html

    An 82-year-old woman was beheaded in a north London suburban garden by a man with a machete.

    Palmira Silva, a widow and grandmother described as “such a sweet lady” by one neighbour, was killed outside her home in Edmonton in a random but frenzied assault by a 25-year-old.

    Witnesses said they saw the man, wielding a foot-long blade, attack a passing vehicle and a cat before roaming back gardens looking for a victim.

    Police believe he also tried to attack two people at another home in the street, but they were able to escape without injury.

    The man was arrested after armed officers, who had distracted him to prevent further attacks, cornered him in a house and brought him down with a Taser stun gun. Some officers were injured.

    Mrs Silva, who was of Italian descent, was pronounced dead at the scene.

    One line of inquiry for detectives is understood to be that the man was inspired by recent footage of terrorists beheading two American journalists in Syria.
    A neighbourhood not allowed to have guns is one that cannot fend off or stop a deranged machete thug easily !! People have to wait for the police to arrive. By then ... how many people could he have killed ?

    But maybe you're OK with that. Here, we're talking about one woman who was the prey of a crazed murderer. For the sake of saving her life .. better that she loses it, eh, rather than allow people a self defence capablity that could've SAVED her.

    Yes ? Is that how you see this, @Noir ?

    There's a real world out there. It has to be met in realistic terms. To SAVE lives.

    Do you now, finally, understand that ?? OR, are you so wedded to political imperatives dictated to you that you can never stray so much as a millimetre away from them, in case REAL WORLD problems threaten to intrude upon your 'worldview' .. ?
    Last edited by Drummond; 08-13-2019 at 07:52 PM.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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