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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    And also a waste of scarce resources. The "why" is a pretty big hurdle to get over to sell this.
    Waste?
    They'd already spent over a billion in 1940s dollars working on the bombs.
    You think a dock, 1 munitions ship and a few 100 sailors (who they never wanted in the navy anyway) was too a big a waste in the minds of some the "leaders" in our country? To big a hurdle?
    Seriously?
    Last edited by revelarts; 07-21-2023 at 02:40 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    these deep state fucks here are always trying to defend the indefensible.
    Different people have different journeys.
    I've never "trusted" the govt fully but it wasn't until about 2004 2005 that I began to look closely and it really started to sink in just how dark some actions & parts of govt were/are.

    The rabbit hole is deep and unsettling. I understand why some don't go down it.
    Last edited by revelarts; 07-21-2023 at 02:48 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Waste?
    They'd already spent over a billion in 1940s dollars working on the bombs.
    You think a dock, 1 munitions ship and a few 100 sailors (who they never wanted in the navy anyway) was too a big a waste in the minds of some the "leaders" in our country? To big a hurdle?
    Seriously?

    he's grasping at straws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Seriously?
    y'okeydokey. Your minds made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Different people have different journeys.
    I've never "trusted" the govt fully but it wasn't until about 2004 2005 that I began to look closely and it really started to sink in just how dark some actions & parts of govt were/are.

    The rabbit hole is deep and unsettling. I understand why some don't go down it.
    but evil is evil.

    in my religion though we believe in forgiveness and repentance.

    I pray for them.
    Last edited by AHZ; 07-21-2023 at 03:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    y'okeydokey. Your minds made up.

    acting like "they wouldn't do that" is fairly idiotic, knowing things they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    acting like "they wouldn't do that" is fairly idiotic, knowing things they do.
    I only asked a question. No satisfactory answer has been supplied as of yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I only asked a question. No satisfactory answer has been supplied as of yet.
    the "why" is because they want to do a test and they don't value the lives of servicemen.

    does that explain it for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    the "why" is because they want to do a test and they don't value the lives of servicemen.

    does that explain it for you?
    No.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No.
    because they do value human life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    because they do value human life?
    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Attempting to incinerate 700 sailors and thousands of pounds of valuable munitions in the middle of a war with an uncertain outcome?
    4600 tons, I think I read, of munitions.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    And also a waste of scarce resources. The "why" is a pretty big hurdle to get over to sell this.
    And at least a couple of ships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    4600 tons, I think I read, of munitions.



    And at least a couple of ships.

    so you believe they're frugal.

    ok.

    that seems well-informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    so you believe they're frugal.

    ok.

    that seems well-informed.
    You're not very good at thinking what people believe. You just shouldn't try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You're not very good at thinking what people believe. You just shouldn't try.
    you just expressed a belief in the frugality of the military industrial complex.

    and here I am worrying about black budgets. silly me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    you just expressed a belief in the frugality of the military industrial complex.

    and here I am worrying about black budgets. silly me.
    You're not good at reading comprehension either.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
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