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    New Covid vaccines are on the way as 'Eris' variant rises
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    By Michael Erman

    NEW YORK, Aug 14 (Reuters) - A new COVID vaccine is due out next month, but health experts and analysts say it is likely to be coolly received even as hospitalizations from "Eris", a variant of the Omicron form of the coronavirus, rise around the country.

    Some public health experts hope that Americans will welcome the new shot as they would a flu jab. But demand for the vaccine has dropped sharply since 2021 when it first became available and more than 240 million people in the U.S., or 73% of the population, received at least one shot.

    In the fall of 2022, by which time most people had either had the COVID virus or the vaccine, fewer than 50 million people got the shots.

    Healthcare providers and pharmacies such as CVS Health will start next month to offer the shot, updated to fight the Omicron version of the virus that has been dominant since last year.

    They will be fighting declining concern about the virus, as well as fatigue and skepticism about the merits of this vaccine, Kaiser Family Foundation Director of Survey Methodology Ashley Kirzinger said.

    "Public health officials, if they want to see a majority of adults get these annual vaccines, they're going to have to make the case to the American public that COVID isn't over and it still poses a risk to them," Kirzinger said.

    The top reason vaccinated people gave in KFF surveys earlier this year for eschewing annual shots was they believed they had protection from the virus because of previous shots or infections, she said.

    COVID-19 vaccine makers have pared back expectations for this fall's vaccination campaign, with Pfizer – the largest maker of mRNA shots with BioNTech – recently warning that it might need to cut jobs if it does not do well. Its biggest rival, Moderna, conceded demand could be as few as 50 million shots.

    Last year, Pfizer and Moderna's vaccine sales topped $56 billion worldwide; analysts project around $20 billion for this year.

    Jefferies analyst Michael Yee said he does not expect the autumn campaign to reach last year's.

    "Take a look at what happened last winter. It was 50 million in the US, and it seems likely to be lower than that, given that there's less concern about COVID this year than last year," Yee said.

    POST PANDEMIC VACCINE

    The COVID public health emergency ended in May and the government has handed much of the duty of vaccinating America to the private sector. Over 1.1 million people in the United States have died from COVID, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

    CDC Director Mandy Cohen said last week in a podcast that she expects the shots - which still need to be authorized by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and recommended by the CDC - to be rolled out in the third or fourth week of September. She suggested Americans should view these shots as an annual measure to protect oneself, in line with the annual flu shot.

    As with the flu, Pfizer/BioNTech SE, Moderna and Novavax, have created versions of the COVID vaccine to try to match the variant they believe will be circulating this fall. The shots are aimed at XBB.1.5, a subvariant that is similar to EG.5 and also a sub-lineage of the still dominant Omicron variant.

    COVID-19 related hospitalizations are up more than 40% off of recent lows hit in June, but are still more than 90% below peak levels hit during the January 2022 Omicron outbreak, according to CDC data.

    THE EVIDENCE

    Some doctors suggest that annual shots should be targeted at the elderly and other high risk people, who are most likely to have dire outcomes if they catch COVID-19.

    Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases specialist at Vanderbilt University and a liaison to the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization practices, said it is possible that the ACIP could make a weaker recommendation for younger, healthier people. That could also affect demand.

    "Should children really receive this booster?" Schaffner said. "Should the average person with no underlying illness who is a younger adult receive this vaccine or should this vaccine now be a more targeted vaccine?"

    The CDC recommended children get a single dose of last year's updated vaccine for those aged 6 and older.

    Dr. David Boulware, an infectious diseases specialist at the University of Minnesota, said that according to research he has published, people who are boosted have less severe symptoms for a shorter duration.

    "When you look at what you can do to reduce your duration of illness, even if you do get sick, being boosted is going to be the best way to do that," he said.

    (Reporting by Michael Erman; editing by Caroline Humer and Diane Craft)
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    What was the lie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    What was the lie?

    They lied about the Covid the first time. They did bogus crap using force on we the citizens, etc.

    They made it where I could not visit my dying wife--UNLESS I TOOK THAT DAMN SHOT!!!
    She was in hospital for an entire month and Iwas not allowed to see her.
    FFING bullshit and they did that and lots more tp other people.
    So dont try to play that damn innocent act on me. They violated citizens rights. --Tyr
    Last edited by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot; 08-14-2023 at 04:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    They lied about the Covid the first time. They did bogus crap using force on we the citizens, etc.

    They made it where I could not visit my dying wife--UNLESS I TOOK THAT DAMN SHOT!!!
    She was in hospital for an entire month and Iwas not allowed to see her.
    FFING bullshit and they did that and lots more tp other people.
    So dont try to play that damn innocent act on me. They violated citizens rights. --Tyr
    I don't think they lied about covid the first time. It was a thing. Now it just looks like they're hawking covid vaccines just like they hawk flu vaccines.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't think they lied about covid the first time. It was a thing. Now it just looks like they're hawking covid vaccines just like they hawk flu vaccines.
    when will you stop apologizing for the establishment?

    what are you a rockefeller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    when will you stop apologizing for the establishment?

    what are you a rockefeller?
    I was just trying to figure out where the lie was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't think they lied about covid the first time. It was a thing. Now it just looks like they're hawking covid vaccines just like they hawk flu vaccines.
    The lie was how serious it was....... It has a 98.2% survival rate. They were giving its death rate at much, much higher numbers. --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    What was the lie?
    They lied about the origin
    They lied about effectiveness of the vaccine
    They lied about the test kits
    They lied about ivermectin and hydroxy-chloroquine as early treatment
    They lied about hospitals getting paid to put people on ventilators
    They lied about paying hospitals for every patient diagnosed with covid
    They lied about vaccine injuries
    They lied about spike proteins

    I think this is a pretty good start on what was the lie ... so many lies it's hard to choose which one you will accept as "the lie".

    Here are some of the ramifications of the lies

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/
    Last edited by SassyLady; 08-14-2023 at 09:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    They lied about the origin
    They lied about effectiveness of the vaccine
    They lied about the test kits
    They lied about ivermectin and hydroxy-chloroquine as early treatment
    They lied about hospitals getting paid to put people on ventilators
    They lied about paying hospitals for every patient diagnosed with covid
    They lied about vaccine injuries
    They lied about spike proteins

    I think this is a pretty good start on what was the lie ... so many lies it's hard to choose which one you will accept as "the lie".

    Here are some of the ramifications of the lies

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/
    Took me quite a while to read the article but it was a real eye opener for me.
    I urge every person to read it as it points out what those vermin did to tens of millions of people worldwide.
    Yet nothing will be done to them is my prediction. -Sad tis it not?
    I wonder just how is fj going to refute that article???--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    The lie was how serious it was....... It has a 98.2% survival rate. They were giving its death rate at much, much higher numbers. --Tyr
    Spain, Italy, nursing homes in NYC, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Here are some of the ramifications of the lies

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    I wonder just how is fj going to refute that article???--Tyr
    This has all been outlined by Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum, in his book on the “Great Reset”
    No bias there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Spain, Italy, nursing homes in NYC, etc.







    No bias there.
    Ok fj, you believe what you want. I know what was done directly to me. And I saw what they did to others.
    You know the old saying- "seeing is believing""
    You try to have a dying wife and then be told by hospital you cannot visit her in the hospital for a month and see how you like it, ok?... --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I was just trying to figure out where the lie was.
    they said it came from a wet market.

    they were regularly misstating facts about masks, lethality, contagiousness.

    they were lying about stats (people dieing with versus from covid)



    why do you intentionally forget so many lies?

    just learn to live in and value truth.

    try it one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Ok fj, you believe what you want. I know what was done directly to me. And I saw what they did to others.
    You know the old saying- "seeing is believing""
    You try to have a dying wife and then be told by hospital you cannot visit her in the hospital for a month and see how you like it, ok?... --Tyr
    Never have I said that everything the government did was perfect, right, and completely rational.

    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    they said it came from a wet market.

    they were regularly misstating facts about masks, lethality, contagiousness.

    they were lying about stats (people dieing with versus from covid)



    why do you intentionally forget so many lies?

    just learn to live in and value truth.

    try it one time.
    I just don't think the other side was perfect, right, and completely rational in all that they claimed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Never have I said that everything the government did was perfect, right, and completely rational.



    I just don't think the other side was perfect, right, and completely rational in all that they claimed.

    who was the other side? what are the sides you imagine here?

    victims versus perpetrators is what it seems like.

    and you give the perpetrators every benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    who was the other side? what are the sides you imagine here?

    victims versus perpetrators is what it seems like.

    and you give the perpetrators every benefit of the doubt.
    You not knowing the sides is why you aren't good at this.
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