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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    People would be wise to remember, "The government that governs best, governs least." It's up to the people to return to that thinking.

    it's about corruption too. like big pharma owning the government.

    corporations should also be kept small to avoid abuse.

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    Last edited by revelarts; 09-19-2023 at 11:33 AM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Makes me sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Makes me sad.
    Same here, I've talked some of these younger people living out of hotels trying make enough to rent an apartment or a home. 2 jobs, 3 jobs, kids in daycare. it's messed up.
    But unemployment needs to go up 50% man ... cause lazy worker are demanding too much is what i'm told.

    Last edited by revelarts; 09-19-2023 at 12:10 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    ^You seem to be leaning towards populism.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ^You seem to be leaning towards populism.
    Not me. I feel for young families struggling under Bidenomics. It's not a joke for those on lower tungsten. Then again, get skills. Entry level jobs are just that. No one is making $7 whatever min wage. Heck walmart pays for college, including books. Yes, got to major in something related to career, like teaching, business, etc.

    They'll train for CDL license and apprenticeship. Takes 18 months paid. Jobs start at $109k.

    Other companies are offering different versions incentives. Man up.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Not me. I feel for young families struggling under Bidenomics. It's not a joke for those on lower tungsten. Then again, get skills. Entry level jobs are just that. No one is making $7 whatever min wage. Heck walmart pays for college, including books. Yes, got to major in something related to career, like teaching, business, etc.

    They'll train for CDL license and apprenticeship. Takes 18 months paid. Jobs start at $109k.

    Other companies are offering different versions incentives. Man up.
    Well all good points. People here are getting skills but they are still working two jobs or 3 or 4 for double income families

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    "It" can be done in any economy from any starting point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Well all good points. People here are getting skills but they are still working two jobs or 3 or 4 for double income families
    And casino dealing doesn't pay six figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Well all good points. People here are getting skills but they are still working two jobs or 3 or 4 for double income families
    It's tough. I did my kids a favor, all have strong work ethics. Understand that one never quits a job without first having another. Always let them catch you working, they'll let someone else go first. Watch for business failing, plan accordingly. Keep getting skills, keep up to date.

    All doing good. After college, before families worked full and part time to pay off debt and buy cars. Save fir down payment. Gotta plan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    And casino dealing doesn't pay six figures.
    Choices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Choices.
    Yeah I was thinking of a tiny little person i know. Can't see her driving a big rig. But dealing is a trade. Welding may be a better one

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ^You seem to be leaning towards populism.
    "populism" "free market capitalism"
    seem to be terms that some wall street leaning types like to throw out to cover the Crap Show of economic realities that people left & right are living.
    And to diffuse any actions that would lessen the CRAP Show.

    Just by tossing out the label "populism" & hoping voters/the public will run from it is a pretty nice tacit. Especially when the label has a far less settled meaning than something like "globalist" or "monopoly" or "collusion" or "market capture" or "sweatshops" or "gig work" and such.

    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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