Israel, and the simple truth

[SassyLady]

Once again Israel and Palestine are at war. Until the principle of two states for two peoples is implemented, this conflict will not end.

Gaza and the residents refuse to accept 2 state solution because they want Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

[Kathianne]

Gaza and the residents refuse to accept 2 state solution because they want Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

Indeed. There were and are Gazans that have remained in Israel since the beginning. They've prospered along with Israelis and suffered with them at the hands of Hamas and Hezbollah.

If everyone had remained as one state, peacefully, it would be a very different place today. The US is not the same country it was in the 1960s either. Alas, different choices were made, different roads taken.

[Alik Bahshi]

Indeed. There were and are Gazans that have remained in Israel since the beginning. They've prospered along with Israelis and suffered with them at the hands of Hamas and Hezbollah.

If everyone had remained as one state, peacefully, it would be a very different place today. The US is not the same country it was in the 1960s either. Alas, different choices were made, different roads taken.

Alas, Israel does not give Palestinians from the occupied territory Israeli citizenship and prevents them from gaining a state. Their condition is called apartheid.

[SassyLady]

Alas, Israel does not give Palestinians from the occupied territory Israeli citizenship and prevents them from gaining a state. Their condition is called apartheid.

Palestinians do not want their own state. As for apartheid .. Gazans are the ones that want Israel and all the Jewish people eradicated.

[Kathianne]

Alas, Israel does not give Palestinians from the occupied territory Israeli citizenship and prevents them from gaining a state. Their condition is called apartheid.

Check these out, it's pretty much spot on. As I said, the civilians would have been better off with one state, but if two was the best for them, it was offered, and offered, and offered.

Argarar Leibovitch






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Israel offered accepted and offered many times two-state solutions.
Arabs refuses all peace proposals and started violent actions.
The defending Israel desires co-existence with Arabs.
The Arabs aggressors desire end of Israel existence.
Pls ask the Arabs named by the Soviet KGB Palestinians in 1968 if they ever made a peace proposal?
Following a partial list.
1: In 1947 the UN offered two-states: One for Israel and one for the 22 Arab state. The Arab aggressors refused and invade the defending Israel with 7 armies.
The Arabs declared:
“This will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre, which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacres, or the Crusaders’ wars….
2: From 1948 up 1957 Jordan occupied the West bank. Egypt occupied the Gaza strip. The could form the 22 Arab state but they didn’t. The Arabs living on those lands didn’t require an independent state.
3: After the 1967 war, the defending Israel propose to give up most of the territory it had won in exchange for a guarantee of peace.
The Arab leaders answer was:
1: NO PEACE with Israel,
2: NO NEGOTIATIONS with Israel,
3: NO RECOGNITION of Israel
4: The Oslo agreement for the defending Israel was the path to peace.
For The Arabs named by the Soviet KGB Palestinians in 1968 the agreement was the path to establish mass terrorist cells , kill Israeli civilians and lie to the west.
"The Oslo Agreement is a Trojan horse; We plan to eliminate Israel"
Public declaration of Arafat in the Arabic language, made several times.
5: Clinton blamed Arafat after the failure of the talks with Israeli PM Barak stating:
"I regret that Arafat missed the opportunity to bring that nation into being”
6; 2000- On Taba negotiations Israel made unprecedented offers.
Palestinian response was to open the deadly terror war against Israel civilians
7: On 2009 the Israel right government lead by PM Olmert proposed Abas a detailed peace plan.
Abbas promised a reply!
He never returned to peace negotiations.
8: Obama required stopping settlements for limited time and negotiate.
Israel stopped the settlements for 10 month.
The Palestinians refused negotiations
9; 2020- President Trump, in order to brake the 72 years death lock , proposed a new peace plan including a $50 Billions packaged to be used to build a good future for the Arabs.
The Palestinians refused and cut the connections with USA and Israel.
10: Examples of the Arabs named Palestinians by the KGB in 1968 destroy Israel narrative said the Arabic langug:.
10.1: "WE ARE IN LINE WITH HAMAS OPPOSING ISRAEL’S RIGHT TO EXIST”
“ Our public statements recognizing Israel’s right to exist to the West are designed “to trick the Americans"
Mahmud Abbas declaration recorded on YouTube
10.2: Hamas and PLO charter, biding all the Arabs named by mistake Palestinians politicians:
: "The day of judgment will not come until Moslem's fight killing the Jews.”
""; PEACE AND QUITE WOULD BE POSSIBLE ONLY UNDER ISLAM WINGS”
“ Under Islam, Christianity, Judaism may coexist”
Read Hamas charter
10.3: “The struggle will not stop until the Zionist entity IS ELIMINATED""
From the PLO platform reaffirmed in the Fatah




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[Alik Bahshi]

Check these out, it's pretty much spot on. As I said, the civilians would have been better off with one state, but if two was the best for them, it was offered, and offered, and offered.

As I understand it from your assumption that it is better for civilians to be in one state, you meant Palestine.

[Kathianne]

As I understand it from your assumption that it is better for civilians to be in one state, you meant Palestine.

No, that would have been Israel, as a homeland was offered to those Muslims at end of WWII, it was declined with violence.

[Alik Bahshi]

No, that would have been Israel, as a homeland was offered to those Muslims at end of WWII, it was declined with violence.

Yes, they came to the Palestinians and offered another homeland. Great! The result was 5 million refugees.

[Kathianne]

Yes, they came to the Palestinians and offered another homeland. Great! The result was 5 million refugees.

Some remember the process, others pretend to forget it to continue the hate.

[Alik Bahshi]

In the Gaza Strip, a bomb hit a hospital, killing about 800 people. Israel previously warned that it would bomb the hospital, since the headquarters of Hamas militants is located underneath it.

[SassyLady]

In the Gaza Strip, a bomb hit a hospital, killing about 800 people. Israel previously warned that it would bomb the hospital, since the headquarters of Hamas militants is located underneath it.

Rocket landed in parking lot. It was a Hamas home made rocket that disintegrated on its way into Israel.

[Alik Bahshi]

In the Gaza Strip, a bomb hit a hospital, killing about 800 people. Israel previously warned that it would bomb the hospital, since the headquarters of Hamas militants is located underneath it.

The primitive Palestinian rockets do not have sufficient explosive power to destroy an entire building. When these missiles hit a building, at best they destroy one apartment, but the building remains, and a hole from the missile remains in the wall, which is usually visible in photographs. The hospital in Gaza was completely destroyed, not a single wall remained. This is a consequence of being hit by an Israeli rocket or bomb, which is also visible in videos showing the consequences of the shelling of Gaza. It must be said that Israel’s explanations for the fall of a Palestinian rocket that collapsed a hospital building are very similar to Russia’s false explanations in the case of the downing of Malaysian Boeing flight MH-17.

[SassyLady]

The primitive Palestinian rockets do not have sufficient explosive power to destroy an entire building. When these missiles hit a building, at best they destroy one apartment, but the building remains, and a hole from the missile remains in the wall, which is usually visible in photographs. The hospital in Gaza was completely destroyed, not a single wall remained. This is a consequence of being hit by an Israeli rocket or bomb, which is also visible in videos showing the consequences of the shelling of Gaza. It must be said that Israel’s explanations for the fall of a Palestinian rocket that collapsed a hospital building are very similar to Russia’s false explanations in the case of the downing of Malaysian Boeing flight MH-17.

You are seriously mistaken. There was minimal damage to the hospital. Your whole premise has been debunked over the last 48 hours.

Those photos you're talking about wasn't even of the hospital.

[Alik Bahshi]

You are seriously mistaken. There was minimal damage to the hospital. Your whole premise has been debunked over the last 48 hours.

Those photos you're talking about wasn't even of the hospital.

Israel is systematically destroying hospitals in Gaza, suggesting that Hamas militants are hiding there.

[Kathianne]

Israel is systematically destroying hospitals in Gaza, suggesting that Hamas militants are hiding there.

Now you're just trolling. Be gone!